On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 11:08:58PM +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 22.03.2015 22:00, KatolaZ wrote: > > Well, we might all agree on despising the systemd-nonsense on a > > technical level, but nobody can say it's not free software without > > being considered a fool. The systemd-nonsense is distributed with a > > free software license, therefore it *is* free software... > > I think everyone is in agreement that they fulfill the letter of the > license. The spirit may be lacking especially in regards to access. > Being an enormous, interdependent hairball simply puts the code out of > reach for all practical purposes as well as restricting use. Again, > that's spirit and not letter and the license does not address that. > There is however one large, long running project which does take code > legibility and quality and those kinds of things into account, in > addition to license. Maybe that's something for GPLv4, or maybe not.
But why you raise such issues only when we talk about the systemd-nonsense and not, e.g., about GNOME, KDE, Xorg, and the vast majority of enormous, intedependent hairballs you are using every day? :) My problem with the systemd-nonsense is not (exclusively) about its *implementation*, through which I have not yet had the opportunity to go, but about its *design principles*, which are clearly against two simple concepts that have been the major strength of unix-like systems: KISS and DOTADIW. Even a "clean" implementation of the systemd-nonsense, which still tries to manage every single aspect of the boot in a single process, would not be able to solve this issue. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng