Anto <arya...@chello.at> escribió:
On 05/05/15 18:52, Noel Torres wrote:As a resume: If you want a systemd-free system, Devuan is your distribution, and will always be. But if you want a system designed to be unable to run systemd, please leave us. This is not the place for such an anti-freedom POV.Are you for real? Do you understand the impact on what you wrote?
Of course yes. We are not a bunch of anti-systemd fanboys, but a set of system administrators that want to be free not to have systemd imposed on us by what was our distribution of choice for its technical soundness and reliability: Debian.
How much efforts will that be to support systemd *without* any locked-in? I believe this is what you meant, because Devuan will be
That of the required effort is a completely different issue to that of freedom!
exactly the same as Debian if the support for systemd would also force the locked-in of a lot of packages. And unless the number of Devuan developers will be as many as Debian developers, I think you are just dreaming.
Yes, dreaming, but also setting a line on the sand: rejecting systemd on Devuan for reason A is good, and for reason B is bad. The line is on the reasons, not on systemd itself.
I can write this now that you can be sure I will be the first one to leave Devuan as soon as it starts to support systemd. This encourages me to start learning about building a deb repository and forking, because as soon as Devuan starts to support systemd, it will be much easier for me to fork Devuan.
Feel free to leave, fork, contribute or just argue with me, but even if you leave, I'll support your freedom.
It is quite sad for me to write this as Devuan does not even exist yet. But I can see it now that the future of Devuan is not really promising for me. I will wait and still be around until that day comes.
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