On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 11:22:10PM -0400, Peter Olson wrote: [cut]
> > Although I rank among the purists, I could go along with this idea: > > Two ISO/repo configurations. > > One which is free. > > The other which works if the first doesn't. > Seconded. I myself am among the purists, and I need firmware-iwlwifi for my wifi adapter (although not having wifi working at install-time has usually not been that much of a burden, indeed). Anyway, I would prefer to see the standard Devuan install proposing only non-free software/firmware, and I might not object the provision of an alternative ISO which allows to pull down *exclusively* the firmware that is essential for the installation to continue successfully. But now that I am proposing this possibility, an easy question arises: what is a "successful installation"? The meaning of "successful" might vary a lot across users, and most of those same "end users" who would find it difficult to get along during install without non-free firmware could also label as "unsuccessful" a desktop installation in which X runs with VESA instead of the "right" (nonfree) driver which allows smooth 3D eyecandies to run.... What will we do then? Will we open another thread to discuss whether closed-source video card drivers should be proposed during install to avoid disappointing our beloved "end users"? Again, since it is very difficult to draw a line, I would prefer to draw the easiest and most principled one, that is to say: propose exclusively free software/firmware during installation. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng