On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 02:59:51AM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote: > More than the already know switch from gnome to xcfe4 as the default > desktop and the oblovious change to sysvinit instead of systemd, i would > to propose some other default changes in the standard install: > > nano -> vim > exim -> postfix > > > what do you guys think about that?
I believe it's not time for changes in the defaults. The first thing I do on fresh installs is to pull in vim and emacs, make one of them the default editor and remove the bloody exim. But I understand that most users are unconfortable with vim, and nano is a viable alternative. In any case, the principle of minimum surprise should be a guiding rule of thumb. IMHO, a superificial Debian jessie user should not notice the difference between Devuan and Debian, until she has to manually start/stop a daemon from the terminal. Then, since you are asking, I personally would prefer to have an as small as possible fingerprint on the "basic" install, which possibly implies *not* having a lot of garbage, including a proper MTA, installed by default (nullmailer would be more than enough for most of the uses of a basic install). I am convinced that users should know exactly what they need before they find it already installed in their system. As a matter of fact, 99.9% of the users do not need an MTA more powerful than nullmailer, and maybe almost 90% of typical users do not ever need to edit a file. Those who need something else should already be able to apt-get install whatever. If they are not, then they should do a little reading first. Having vim or an MTA already installed does not automagically give you the sufficient knowledge to use them, BTW. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng