On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 09:30:04PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 08:22:55 PM Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:12:01AM +0200, Teodoro Santoni wrote:
> > > ... but, yeah, it's outside the scope of Devuan. D-Bus just sucks and is
> > > documented on a random basis, when you compare it to the rest of
> > > GNU/Fedora
> > > it's... like GTK: it sucks, there are alternatives but it's a PITA to port
> > > away 'cause a lot of big codebases uses them as foundation.
> > 
> > So there are alternatives to GTK:  Do any suck less?  What are they?
> > 
> What's wrong with GTK?  I don't care for it, but it is not any worse than 
> Microsoft's UI.  
> 
> There are lots of alternatives.  wxWidgets and Qt are the most common 
> suggestions, but there are far more esoteric ones.  If you are aiming for 
> widest portability support, Qt is probably your best bet.  
> 
> I don't care for it myself - because it is C++.  I do not believe in OOP as a 
> decent paradigm for software development.  I'm know I am in the minority, but 
> I am not alone.  Even Google has reined in use of some of the worst features 
> of OOP.  Programmers working for Google are not allowed to use exceptions.

I believe in OOP as a tool in my toolkit, but I do not believe in C++.  If 
you want to see an example of statically typed OOP  done right, look at 
Modula 3.  Although the syntax is excessively wordy, the semantics is 
clean.

> 
> Laters!
> 
> T.J.
> 
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