On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 20:34 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Today on #debconf:
> 
> 20:11 < paultag> devuan can pick a fight once they release
> 20:11 < paultag> Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing 
> systemd by default
> 20:11 < paultag> which they still do
> 
> Guys... _still_ installing systemd by default is pathethic.  I provided a
> set of desystemdized de-libsystemd0-ed packaged half a year ago (deb-src
> http://angband.pl/debian nosystemd-{jessie,stretch}), and other than upower,
> it was a matter of a bunch of trivial changes to debian/{control,rules,...}.
> 
> The time frame becomes bad... you don't want to be laughed at, do you?

Couldn't agree more. The problem seems to be people committing to
maintain packages :( I for one am willing to maintain some, but the
devuan git development process is still not clear to me. 


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