On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:09:14 +0200, Alexander wrote in message <20160720120914.gc25...@smithers.snow-crash.org>:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:25:39 +0200, Klaus wrote in message > > <33d1c1ed-16ae-e76a-9086-e770b0d99...@arcor.de>: > > > > > > > > Michael Prokop schrieb am 19.07.2016 um 23:22: > > > > * Klaus Fuerstberger [Mon Jul 18, 2016 at 09:41:01AM +0200]: > > > > > > > >> as I could not post a blog comment at > > > >> http://blog.grml.org/archives/394-Is-Grml-still-alive.html I > > > >> want to leave a comment to this article here. > > > > > > > >> Many thanks for grml all over the years. Please keep on > > > >> providing new releases without systemd packages. There is no > > > >> need for this bloated piece of software for a text based > > > >> distribution for system admins. Maybe you can base grml on > > > >> devuan, a systemd-free, debian-based distribution in the > > > >> future? https://devuan.org/ I am sure that you will get help > > > >> there if there are any questions. > > > > > > > > JFTR, we definitely plan to ship Grml *with* systemd, because > > > > that is the way to go for us and also gives people remastering > > > > Grml even more flexibility WRT service startups, independent > > > > from our default configuration. > > > > > > You made Grml for people to be flexible in remastering it? I think > > > Grml was, and is complete as it is. If I want to add a daemon at > > > startup I need no systemd to successful remastering Grml. But of > > > course it is your decision. > > > > > > > If you're interested in a Grml flavor *without* systemd you're > > > > invited to work on that, you might be also interested in > > > > picking up file-rc as upstream respectively package maintainer > > > > (file-rc being the init system we relied on so far and where no > > > > maintainer seems to be present anymore, esp. once both Alex and > > > > me will orphan it). > > > > > > Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I > > > will not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But > > > as grml is also listed in > > > http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions > > > I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there > > > will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this > > > systemd free. > > > > ..looks like Grml is a loss: http://bts.grml.org/grml/issue1568 > > Pity. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=alternatives+to+udev&ia=web > > > > ..systemd, udev etc pötterication has no more tech etc merit than > > e.g. Erdogan's ban on Turk academics going on e.g. vacation abroad. > > > > Please don't Cc our mailinglist again. ..from which mailing list am I now being banished? ;o) I am aware I am not welcome on Debian mailing lists due to my knowledge of banana republic politics and how they brought systemd upon Debian, and therefore didn't cc any Debian mailing lists. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
