So should we respond by saying that "We don't use or encourage the use
of systemd-shim in Devuan.  Our approach is to rebuild the packages
which in debian depend on systemd, without that dependency instead."

Regards,
        Daniel.



On 04/08/16 09:12, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd
> Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:12:02 +0000
> Resent-From: Martin Pitt <[email protected]>
> Resent-To: [email protected]
> Resent-CC: [email protected], [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:09:32 +0200
> From: Martin Pitt <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Martin Pitt <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> To: Debian BTS Submit <[email protected]>
> CC: Steve Langasek <[email protected]>, Allison Ryan Lortie <[email protected]>
> 
> Package: wnpp
> 
> Neither Steve nor I still have any interest in maintaining
> systemd-shim. Debian's default init system is systemd, Ubuntu supports
> nothing else any more (and does not even have systemd-shim any more),
> upstart is gone from both Debian and Ubuntu, so the only use case for
> it right now is running Debian with SysVinit (in particular, on
> non-Linux flavors).
> 
> So this should be picked up by someone who is interested in keeping SysV
> init
> support for desktops (i. e. which need logind or timedatectl) alive in
> Debian.
> There are currently no release-critical bugs and the package is working
> reasonably well for main use cases, but there *are* a few bugs worth looking
> into.
> 
> The upstream branch is currently at
> <https://github.com/desrt/systemd-shim/>.
> Allison isn't interested any more in this either, so I suggest that
> the upstream repo gets mothballed and systemd-shim just becomes a
> Debian-native package (I'm not aware of any other distro using it
> anyway).
> 
> Note that systemd-shim currently uses cgmanager, which by itself is
> obsolete [1].
> 
> Package description:
> 
>   Description: shim for systemd
>    This package emulates the systemd function that are required to run
>    the systemd helpers without using the init service
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
> [1] https://s3hh.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/whither-cgmanager/
> 


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