Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > IFF we are going to put stuff in to work around problems for one set > of edge cases (and IMO it's debatable whether we should), then why not > also cater for what is possibly a larger group of edge cases ? Your > argument seems to be "this is the only set of edge cases I'm prepared > to consider - ignore the others".
I nowhere suggested ignoring edge cases. I merely said the existence of edge cases (severe firewalling, badly implemented hotel wifi captive portals) needing special handling should not deter Devuan from offering a highly useful feaure during installation. I feel like I said 'Hey, it'd be a nice idea to offer a local recursive nameserver option in the installer's default screens because many systems would benefit greatly from this', and a couple of folks tried to immediately say 'We can't do that because severe firewalling or a broken captive portal might prevent it from functioning.' This perplexes me because it's non-sequitur, Installing users can be warned succinctly that some wifi captive portals won't let you reach the login page unless using -their- DNS, and it's trivial to detect if outside port 53 is unreachable. OTOH, if you-all just don't want to offer that to Devuan users, it's no big deal to me. I can fix that with one apt command and a resolv.conf tweak, and automate that with preseeding or puppet/chef. But IMO it'd be a missed opportunity for Devuan. (Life consists mostly of little besides a series of missed opportunities, however. ;-> ) > And for the record, I can only recall two instances of having to > manually enter DNS servers because DHCP didn't give me the right ones. I mostly work with servers. Ergo, mostly fixed IP. A good DHCP-based network will of course point clients via the DHCP option for same to a good local recursive nameserver -- preferably yours rather than Google's. ;-> > PS - thank you very much for your earlier essays on the various DNS > server/resolver options. Yr. very welcome. Some people also enjoy the fable I wrote about the Village of Lan (after hearing one too many person use basically meaningless terms like 'caching nameserver' and wanting to teach people _real_ nameserver taxonomy: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2008q3/006880.html http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2008q3/005293.html Those are refindable from section 'Guide for the Perplexed' under the the Table of Contents on http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Network_Other/dns-servers.html _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
