( to Mathias: don't let this distract you from your work on unofficial+grsecurity, this is technical about Devuan webmail where you recent email has not been posted, just find your name below where you are mentioned, and pls. keep up with the unofficial+grsecurity, the GNU/Linux users need it even if they don't understand; sorry for this digression )
(Just at final proofreading I found information that I didn't know previously, which is in bottom, as well as inserted in two places, can't rewrite the whole email, too tired from last days of hard work at installing Devuan my hard way ) On 170509-22:36+0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: > Hi All, ... Indeed (barring that to me is served, via MiTM'ing or other fashion, a different content than to others, which is very unlikely), indeed: Mail attachments do not get to Devuan ML web, i.e. to the public at large. > I use a mixed XFCE environment with i3 as window manager and I was using > xmodmap and xcape to modify some key bindings, in particular I map the > spacebar to Hyper_L on press and xcape-ing it to space again on release, as This attachment: > per my .xmodmaprc (attached) and calling it in .profile (attached) I do find in my maibox. It consists of just these 24 lines of text: ======%<======== ATTACHMENT START ======%<========= ! ! Making the right CTRL to work in the spectre us keyboard ! keycode 94 = Control_R add Control = Control_R ! ! Setting space as hyper modifier (mod3) for i3 usage ! !clear mod3 !clear mod4 !add mod3 = Hyper_L !add mod4 = Super_L Super_R ! ! Swap Caps_Lock and Control_L ! remove Lock = Caps_Lock remove Control = Control_L keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L add Lock = Caps_Lock add Control = Control_L ======%<======== ATTACHMENT END ======%<========= ================= info found at proofreading time, start ================ https://www.mail-archive.com/dng@lists.dyne.org/msg15183.html and the attachment even shows on the web: https://www.mail-archive.com/dng@lists.dyne.org/msg15183/.xmodmaprc ================= info found at proofreading time, end =================== But I wasn't able to find it in the Devuan Mailing List web. In the concrete example, I think it defeats the purpose of posting the discussion of the Devuan DNG Mailing List at dyne.org, to the public with crippled content because of just a text file of 434 ASCII characters... It defeats the purpose, because if anyone anywhere in the world tried to fix his xmodmap and ducked/shchmoogled/searched for it, and if she found this thread, and the information looked just like what she was searching, alas she would only be frustrated to find nothing, just crippled content... Have a look at my email: unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170512.200605.fae6ef31.en.html If you search that page for '.gz' you will find four attachments there: grsec-dev1-compile.sh.gz (1) Dev1_170512_fakeroot_make_deb-pkg_ERROR.txt.gz control.gz changelog.Debian.gz (1) is indispensable for the main topic of the message, how I compile grsec (2), (3), and (4) are indispensable for understanding what issue has been solved in the currently best available grscurity-patched kernel, which issue has been solved just some two days ago, but my message showed some good testing and Mathias Krause has thanked me in his reply for that testing. None of it can be understood if those gzip'd files are scrubbed :( The whole thread becomes just little more than junk... Is that not publishing of attachments deliberate, or because of some error? I have already asked that question, when, in my message (allowed only a copy with attachment removed): BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170423.152414.27ee0859.en.html when in that messaage my attachment (not in this email): dump_170423_1642_g0n.pcap (which soon turned out to be instrumental in verifying the BAD sig issue) of size: 83k (110k when turned into base64) was not allowed, and I had to find another, non-trivial way to provide it to the readers. BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/devuan/lurker/message/20170423.150932.e9ab7478.en.html And I asked in this email of that thread: < same subject > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170424.014358.b0985889.en.html > Pls. note the difference btwn what, say this same email in my frozen > archive shows (take notice of the attachments, they'll be missing in > the other lurker below, the official live lurker): > https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/devuan/lurker/message/20170423.152414.27ee0859.en.html > and (the attachments are not in the top right corner of that same email > as in my frozen lurker linked above): > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170423.152414.27ee0859.en.html > Why is that so? ================= info found at proofreading time, start =================== https://www.mail-archive.com/dng@lists.dyne.org/msg15004.html Pls. see how a complete email is posted there. That way it is useful, with scrubbed attachments, it is a source of frustration for readers. ================= info found at proofreading time, end ===================== As to why is that so, I haven't received any replies whatsoever... So I'm asking again. Why is that so? And, as you can see in the subject line of this message, it gets even worse. In this email of the recent thread the first email of which has already been cited further above: unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170512.222146.13c1fb50.en.html you can clearly see that I replied to Mathias Krause (added to Cc:), whose unofficial grsecurity-patched kernel is currently the only kernel with grsecurity like I have known it for years available, and so is important... [you can clearly see that I replied to Mathias Krause], a reader from the web would be led to believe that he replied to my query in private, because his email is not available in the thread published on the web: < same subject > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/thread/20170512.222146.13c1fb50.en.html#20170512.222146.13c1fb50 But no, he did not reply to me in a private message, because I would not forward a private message without asking him first. Pls. if any subscribers to DNG ML feel like, find his message in your mailbox: Message-ID: <ca+rthh_s0n0ga7l+gsgbrqzz-cry8xtaqr5lwy6frbfayre...@mail.gmail.com> and see the headers in it (this is from my Mutt): Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 22:49:46 +0200 From: Mathias Krause <mini...@googlemail.com> To: Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle Why so? In my opinion this is plain wrong... It's just not what webmails do, marc.info, gmane, lists.gt.net, mail-archive.com. Can this be corrected? Not just Mathias's email imported into Lurker, but from now on allow simple text attachments, and maybe (most webmail do) allow gzip attachment... And also the 50k limit is way to low. Wireshark e.g. allow 500k... But at least, really as a minimum, some 100k would make for meeting the minimal standards of our time... Ah, just to tell you. On Gentoo users, there is hardly any limit. I have seen emails of over 5M, yes you read it right. that's 100 times more than on Devuan DNG mailing list. I'm not writing this to criticize, but to improve. I can also understand if manpower is missing... I know how hard I have had it to install Devuan my hard way (encrypted root, unofficial grsec), and still have it, as my Devuan is very incomplete at the moment. I'm not angry or anything... Pls. take email as a kind of testing. Regards! --- [1] There is only some on Gmane, which has, generally, not recovered most/a lot of its huge content yet, e.g.: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.devuan.devel/714 --- The last minute information, that will do justice to some of my thoughts above: unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle https://www.mail-archive.com/dng@lists.dyne.org/msg15192.html Pls. have a look in it: the attachments are all there. I bet the email can even be verified with my PGP sig attached... Thanks for everyone's kind consideration. -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
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