On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:17:09 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message <20170722021709.ga8...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:14:43PM -0500, John Morris wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, Don Wright wrote: > > > Dragan FOSS wrote: > > > >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a > > > >waste of time and resources. > > > > > > > > > As long as you're pruning, kill x64 as well, because the majority > > > of computers sold are using ARM architecture and run Android or > > > iOS. > > > > I think you are joking, but it helps not to confuse the three big > > forks > > > > 1. Linux / GNU / X, this is the fork Devuan is on and few Devuan > > installs are on ARM. At this late date, there probably aren't many > > on x86_32 either. Which is why discussion of eliminating a big > > chunk or archive space and compile time will continue to recur > > until eventually nobody can muster a good argument for continuing. > > I'm still on a 32-bit Intel machine, and given an OS with the > fficiency of Devuan, it's perfectly capable of doing what I need. > Does this count as an x86_32? If so, I'd be happy with Devuan > keeping it for a long time yet. If not, I'd like to know what it > *does* count as. > > hendrik@notlookedfor:~$ uname -a > Linux notlookedfor 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2 > (2017-04-30) i686 GNU/Linux > hendrik@notlookedfor:~$ > > I'm *thinking* of upgrading, butt until I can get a better laptop > that doesn't have significant vulnerabilities baked into the > *hardware*, I'd rather keep using what I've got. > > -- hendrik ..aaand, it will run nicely on any on these once they get the manpower they need to get restarted, which BTW is a nice way to grab those guys over here to Devuan. From https://www.debian.org/ports/: hurd-i386 32-bit PC (i386) The GNU Hurd is a new operating system being put together by the GNU group. Debian GNU/Hurd is going to be one (possibly the first) GNU OS. The current project is founded on the i386 architecture. in progress kfreebsd-amd64 64-bit PC (amd64) First officially released with Debian 6.0 as a technology preview and the first non-Linux port released by Debian. Port of the Debian GNU system to the kernel of FreeBSD. Is no longer part of the official release since Debian 8. in progress kfreebsd-i386 32-bit PC (i386) First officially released with Debian 6.0 as a technology preview and the first non-Linux port released by Debian. Port of the Debian GNU system to the kernel of FreeBSD. Is no longer part of the official release since Debian 8. in progress netbsd-i386 32-bit PC (i386) A port of the Debian operating system, complete with apt, dpkg, and GNU userland, to the NetBSD kernel. The port, never released, has been abandoned. dead x32 64-bit PC with 32-bit pointers X32 is an ABI for amd64/x86_64 CPUs using 32-bit pointers. The idea is to combine the larger register set of x86_64 with the smaller memory and cache footprint resulting from 32-bit pointers. in progress ..until they start putting systemd on the above, all we need to do, is mirror these archs just like any standard Debian mirror. A benefit we will gain, is source code insight into how software is modified to run on systemd while it remains viably available for e.g. hurd-i386. ..such sneaky systemd things will be visible to these developers in package source or in compiler source or both. All we need to do to win them over to us, is provide a viable alternative. ..once Debian does try put systemd on any of these archs, nothing is lost, and we'll have a much better starting point for our Devuan arch ports than we had for our first archs. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
