Since Purism have created a fully libre distribution, it seems like that would be the reason for having a seat there. Not that I'm saying you're wrong here - it's important that hardware with binary only blobs are not endorsed by anyone as free hardware.
It's true that they disable ME in their laptops according to all accounts anyway. Afaik it's not fully possible to remove intel ME yet, just disable it (or so we think) and tinker with the partitions. By definition that disqualifies them as producing free or libre hardware or even being certain ME isn't still doing something. Also I haven't heard of Novena/Talos until now despite being on the lookout so you may have a point there. Afaict it's only crowd funding or pre order so far, what's the TLDR? Any others around? Thanks, chillfan ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On March 7, 2018 11:05 PM, taii...@gmx.com taii...@gmx.com wrote: > In exchange for money they are now advertising and endorsing a maker of > > fake libre hardware by letting them have a booth at libreplanet an > > endorsing their debian copy "PureOS" > > https://libreplanet.org/2018/sponsors > > "Grassroots: Purism, makers of fine free hardware" > > Purism is NOT free hardware and certainly not "grassroots" as their > > mysterious founder somehow has a bottomless pit of money to burn on > > hardware costs and propaganda campaigns. > > Purism donates to their own crowd-funding campaigns to make them seem > > more successful and whenever negative facts about them are posted on the > > internet some random guy shows up to insist that the person is mistaken. > > I encourage everyone who cares about the future of free computing to > > contact the FSF about this. > > Here are posts that help explain the purism situation better than I can. > > https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3anjgm/on_the_librem_laptop_purism_doesnt_believe_in/ > > While purism's newer laptops come with "coreboot" all the hardware > > initiation is performed by Intel's FSP binary blob, and while they claim > > to have "disabled" ME (by running ME cleaner which they didn't make) > > they have not as disabling ME is both impossible and illegal. > > (archived due to the powers that be removing these posts after receiving > > political pressure) > > https://web.archive.org/web/20161010040458/https://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2015/02/23/the-truth-about-purism-why-librem-is-not-the-same-as-libre/ > > https://web.archive.org/web/20161010100959/https://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2015/08/09/the-truth-about-purism-behind-the-coreboot-scenes/ > > Other companies produce brand new legitimately libre hardware (TALOS 2, > > Novena, etc) so don't believe purism when they say > > we-are-doing-the-best-we-can. > > Isn't it strange that purism receives so much coverage in the tech press > > but real freedom hardware gets none at all? > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
