On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 06:05:09AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi Devuan network users and adminstrators,
> 
> I was recently suprised to observe network interfaces
> (wlan0 and eth0) going up without my issuing commands for
> it. I'd disable an interface, then see it go right back up.
> 
> I somehow guessed that the culprit might be wicd, and
> confirmed that a wicd process was active.  I never
> ran any of the wicd admin tools.
> 
> The list of wicd features does not mention that it
> interferes with managing networks using net-tools or
> iproute2 commands.
> 
> Is this a bug, or a documentation bug? Certainly, the
> behavior is less-than-awesome. If one wants to learn about
> networking on linux, or to administer a system using
> conventional command-line tools, one should know that wicd
> needs to be removed.
> 
> Do net-tools and iproute2 need to warn against wicd?
> Should wicd warn that it disrupts administration via net-tools?
> 
> I wonder if there is any parallel in how in linux we
> administer /etc/resolv.conf.
> 
> Do you have any thoughts about clarifying how to expect the
> networking environment to work under linux?

Using ascii on my netbook here.

It has a socket for a wired ethernet, but so far I've been using wifi.
I've been using wicd to manage wifi.  I'm finding wifi at home somewhat 
unreliable.

It was more reliabe a few years ago before I moved to a condo; it's 
entirely possible that the unreliablity is because of interference from 
other wifis in other condos in the building.

My Raspberry pi, which runs Devuan ascii, has a wired link because I've 
never ound the right wifi driver.  But the wired link is quite reliable.

Last week I plugged the same wired ethernet cable into the netbook instead 
of the Raspberry Pi.  Wicd recognised it.  But when asked it to turn 
wifi off, it did that, but I was unable to get wicd to operate through 
the wired ethernet. 

I haven't yet had time to experiment further, and am entirely unsure if 
I just don't know how to use wicd, or if wicd presents unusable 
alternatives.

I'd *like* it to connect to the wired link if available, and otherwise 
to wifi.

-- hendrik

> 
> regards,
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel Roth
>   
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