On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 18:10 +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 26-07-18 18:00, Basati wrote: > > I would like to recall that RedHat is a company of the American military > > complex. With close relations with civil intelligence and the military of > > the > > United States > > > > I acknowledge that I used this argument with the DGN trap prior to the fork. > > > > My opinion has not changed systemd is a troll horse not yet activated. When > > it > > is impossible to remove and has thousands and thousands of lines of code > > that > > make it very difficult to audit. They'll open the back door. > > > > For 30 years they have not been able to cope with linux systems. They come > > and > > go as they please on the windows. > > > > The article is clearly biased. It lies and does the same thing that was > > done > > in debian to obviate the underlying reason. > > > > We don't have the resources or the contacts to fight this battle. > > > > But we have something much more powerful. We have devuan, its very > > existence > > is already a resistance. As the number of developers and users increases > > little by little. It will strengthen us to deal with this. > > > > But they can do NOTHING, we are the ones who DO. > > > > I honestly don't think we should waste time with these propaganda anti > > devuan > > actions by redhat. I'm convinced they're behind the article. It's their > > specialty that they know how to intoxicate. > > > > Basati > > > > > I am not into conspiracy theories and keep it simple: > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html and then ask why the hell does > someone wants a init system to do all this stuff? Easy answer: latest > row in table on that page "Easily writable, extensible and parseable > service files, suitable for manipulation with enterprise management > tools" which is not by coincidence the main business of Red Hat. > > Grtz. > > Nick
I agree with this latest point. While most probably they placed a backdoor in systemd, they may have plenty of them in the hardware and linux kernel. Access in the military goes by the security clearance of the individuals, thus any backdoor in systemd may just add another layer to the stack. The largest profit of systemd arises from withdrawing the control of the users from their own machines, the same way android and windows did so successfully. More sheep, more profits for everybody, more easy to rule over them. For 30 years they have fought against linux systems because users do whatever they want with their machines. Regards. -- Elbrus Kondratiev <There an elementary concept called 'Asynchronous Exchange'> _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
