On 11/18/2018 11:11 AM, Rowland Penny wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:11:50 -0500
Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote:

Changed the subject to a more appropriate one.

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:52:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 18/11/18 at 13:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100
Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote:

On 18/11/18 at 10:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

The most important aspect here is: "has been". Its in the past
already and it does not determine the future.
   Maybe not.  If my English Grammar is still worth the schoolbook
paper it was printed on, "has been" is the Present Continuous
Tense, that is used "to express the idea that something is
happening now, at this very moment. It can also be used to show
that something is not happening now."

   So, the main use is for "something is happening now",
sometimes for "something [that] is not happening now."

Nope, your schoolbook paper wasn't worth the paper it was written
on ;-)

   All right, I checked it and indeed I remembered wrong.  The
Present Continuous Tense if formed by the Present Tense of "be"
followed by a Present Participle.  In this case we have the Present
Tense of "have" ("has") followed by the Present Participle of
"be" ("been").  Which means that KatolaZ used the Present Perfect
tense, which is used to express "an action happened at an
unspecified time before now."
What we have here is the passive perfect tense

This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence
in debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and
personal
The most important aspect here is: "has been". Its in the past
already and it does not determine the
future.
'has been' is a perfect tense for 'to be'.  Combined with the *past*
participle of "cheered", it makes a passive verb.

No it isn't, 'has been' means in the past 'to be' means in the the
future, as in 'has been seen' and 'to be seen'.

But what do I know, I have only been speaking English for the last 62
years, ever since I moved on from 'goo-goo-gaga' baby talk ;-)

Rowland



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