Dear Mike. Mike Bird - 01.04.19, 22:52: > On Mon April 1 2019 13:25:15 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > 1) please give any requests for removing one of the core members > > from the project or using legal enforcement a rest. KatolaZ > > apologized already several times. So please let it go. > > I have not threatened "legal enforcement" against Devuan. However > those of us who use Devuan in production cannot continue to do so > if Devuan does not take this issue seriously, least we suffer legal > consequences ourselves.
1) KatolaZ publicly apologized. 2) He wrote that he will make sure not to make such a mistake again. 3) He wrote that no one unauthorized had access to the infrastructure. 4) Devuan is a community project. If you use Devuan in production you very likely do it without any support contract with the Devuan team whatsoever. Of course that is no license for Devuan people to do bad "jokes" like this, but it does also limit what you are entitled to request from Devuan people. 5) Apt also has some safe guards. In what way is that not good enough for you? What would be required for you to forgive a mistake and go on with your life? For me there is a point to just let it go… and for me this point is reached here. If you like a confirmation that it was just a joke by other core Devuan core people, I am quite sure that this could be arranged. Maybe other Devuan core people could reply to "devuan.org is back" thread, again signed via GPG, confirming that it was "just" a joke. For me the signed mail by KatolaZ is enough. I had contact with KatolaZ already, for example when helping to kickstart cooperation between Devuan and Debian (debian-init-diversity). I trust him and I see no gain whatsoever in removing one of the core Devuan people and contributors from the team for a single mistake like this. I trust that he did not intend to cause any harm with that "joke". So, please, is there anything else than removing a member or taking legal action against one that could be enough for you to regain trust in Devuan again? I can perfectly understand when other Devuan core people decide not to follow your request for such drastic measures. And I'd actually support them regarding such a decision. Remember, if you do not regain trust, you can always also use a different distribution. While I actually indeed postponed an update of one of my Devuan servers, I trust KatolaZ and just ran the update a few minutes ago. Thanks, -- Martin _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
