On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>:
> dear readers, > > I write this email to comment on the current Init System GR vote in > Debian, see https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2019/11/ > > I'll be brief and express my personal opinion on the matter. > > Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian. > > When me and Franco Lanza started this project in 2014 it was because > of the most painful Init System GR in Debian. Back then, we chose Ian > Jackson as the best Debian developer to represent the interest of > Debian's users and to defend the true mission of the Debian project as > a universal operating system. While supporting Ian's proposal we also > promised to the world that, if that wouldn't be the route taken by > Debian, we would have not gone gently into that good night. > > So we did, and Devuan was born. > > Together with a small group of volunteers we dedicated huge amounts of > time and resources to Devuan, putting our skills at the service of a > very large community of people in need of Init Freedom; a whole > chapter of my doctoral thesis is dedicated to this project > https://pearl.plymouth.ac.uk/handle/10026.1/11101 and overall our > history is rather well explained here > https://devuan.org/os/init-freedom/ and our community well represented > by the first Devuan conference we organised in Amsterdam > https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference/ > > For many of us Devuan has been a source of pride, joy and professional > relief. It brought together some of the best people, developers and > system administrators I could ever hope to meet in my life. We also > managed to contribute back solutions and software useful to the Debian > project. > > Now please let this success be an account of how important is Init > Freedom for the large amount of Debian users out there. > > Today I write you because there is a reason to be worried that many > Debian users will be betrayed once more by its leadership. > > And today once again I support the vote proposition nr.4 by Ian > Jackson ..a direct link to Ian's vote proposition nr.4 and a direct link on where to vote for that, would be helpful, there are 245 messages "in the air" at https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2019/11/ now. > and urge the elite who has the privilege to steer the future > of Debian to pay good attention to this choice, considering Ian's > competent and well informed formulation. > > At last, please, do not consider Devuan as an alternative solution > which will survive any outcome of this vote. > > Because I'm sure Devuan will not survive without Debian's help. > > Devuan is much, much smaller than Debian in resources, people and > infrastructure, and despite our efforts were useful to both, the > Debian project has done very little to help us so far. > > If Debian drops the support for any other init system but systemd, I > believe we won't be able to keep up with the legwork needed to support > all other init systems. I say this because we do not have a comparable > amount of people and resources to face the huge amount of work Debian > will cease to do. Of course quality matters, but not that far. > > If the resolution nr.4 proposed by Ian Jackson will not pass, > Devuan will die. > > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng