On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 05:48:49AM -0300, Eike Lantzsch via Dng wrote: > Hi Arnt! > > On Saturday, 7 November 2020 21:56:38 -03 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 19:11:45 -0300, Eike wrote in message > > > > <1837090.H3z0i6zCVW@lxcl01>: > > > Hi Arnt, > > > > > > thanks for answering and for the extra recommendations. > > > > > > On Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:38:48 -03 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 16:22:24 -0300, Eike wrote in message > > > > > > > > <1632636.6XzDy3geBR@lxcl01>: > > > > > On Saturday, 7 November 2020 15:52:25 -03 Ludovic Bellière > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Eike, > > > > > > > > > > > > Install libelogind0 first, so it takes precedence over > > > > > > systemd, > > > > > > then > > > > > > elogind. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks - but -> > > > > > That is impossible because of a catch-22.It is not even possible > > > > > to deinstall/purge libsystemd0it seems to be there to haunt me. > > > > > > > > > > Copy and paste off aptitude introduced some not-so-nice > > > > > esc-sequences > > > > > into the text. I hope that it will not mess-up the message too > > > > > much. > > > > > > > > ..2 main ways: use aptitude to pick the version you want. > > > > > > aptitude isn't good at hen-and-egg-problems > > > > ..I find it's pretty good at showing you solutions; break some > > package, when it whines "Broken package", hit "e" and "." or "," to > > browse thru to some solution as close as possible to what you want, > > and mod that to what you want. Rip out stuff you want gone with dpkg > > --force-* trains. > > > > ..if aptitude's error handling fails to find a solution, try apt > > > > and apt-get, they do things differently, and if those fail, we > > > > have > > > > rpm-style nuclear --force purge options to find with dpkg --help > > > > and dpkg --force-help, just line or pile 'em up. ;o) > > > > > > Good grief! > > > > > > Yep apt does things differently. > > > apt: ""You are about to do something potentially harmful." > > > I typed "Yes, yadda yadda ..." > > > It deinstalled hundreds of packages, just as I instructed it to do, > > > > ...with apt* et al. Is why I propose dpkg -P --force-* trains. > > > > .."-P" == "--purge", I failed to include that, I thought it was > > obvious in the context of your thread here, my bad. > > > > ..by "just line or pile 'em up", I meant line up --force-* options > > after "dpkg -P trumpackage" until it does obey your stupid command. > > (It will still whine, because breaking your box is generally > > considered stupid if you don't know how to fix it.)
I presume "trumpackage" is the one you want to get rid of. Don't use purge on the packages you'll want to reinstall -- you probably want to retain their onfigurations. > > > > ..once you've ripped out the trumpy stuff, your box is broken, fix > > it with e.g. aptitude and dpkg --configure -a replacing the missing > > trumpy bits you threw out, with whatever you want instead. > > Yes, I'll go for that route as soon as I find some time to do it. > Just now I'm doing a little bit of forensics on the matter, but only at > the side while occupied with other stuff. > > When installing Beowulf with netinstall, libsystemd0 is being > deinstalled by dpkg and directly after libelogind0 installed also with > dpkg. > That is the step which my upgrade from ASCII to Beowulf missed. > > I was reading up the upgrade procedure again on > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/upgrade-to-beowulf > but did not see a hint that this was necessary to perform manually. > As far as I can recall I followed the procedure when upgrading my ASCII > installation. > I still have snapshots around of my former ASCII installation and as > soon as I find the time I shall go through the process again and see > where it goes wrong or where I made a mistake. > > > > > including apt, aptitude and deselect. Tadaaaa! > > > I had a snapshot and restored it. > > > Now, there is obviously no way out of this - so be it. > > > I will do a fresh install of Beowulf because I really have more > > > important things to do. > Done, for result please see further up > > > > > > > ..once you've thrown out the trump you want out, refer back to > > > > Ludovic's advice. ;o) > > > > > > not biting the hook ... > > .. ;o) > > > Thank you for your help and consideration. > Eike > -- > Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
