On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 4:23 PM Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > > Antony Stone said on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:03:23 +0100 > > >On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 21:59:46, Steve Litt wrote: > > > >> goli...@devuan.org said on Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:49:41 > >> > > >> >Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png > >> > >> For the first 36 hours after you posted this, I thought "if" was the > >> English word "if", not "Internet Freedom" or whatever. Short and to > >> the point works only if you don't need an accompanying explanation. > > > >So, maybe two different colours (or at least shades) for the two > >letters? > > > >That could be enough to make people think of them separately. > > I doubt it. You and I think about init freedom daily. The person > reading the logo? Not so much. Also, what does "init freedom" give > them? We know, but do they? > > Honestly, I know it's hip today to say nothing negative,
Today its considered part of political correctness to say nothing negative. It was the norm for many many years - - - in fact - - - I remember the phrase "If you've nothing good to say say nothing!" - - - in fact I heard that a lot (I tend to nit pick at stupid idiocies that I find!). So in some ways emphasising the positive benefits is a return to society's roots. The blatant, all too often infantile, spewing that has become far too common is a product of having too many persons with huge skills and tiny people experience lashing out at what they see as a personal attack, even when it isn't (although sometimes it is). Computer society seems to be fraught with this - - - changing this kind of behavior - - - - well the current political correctness male bovine excrement is mostly incitement for more spewing and not for changing hearts and minds. In regards to the present topic - - - one only needs to look at the response(s) from the author of this systemd malaise when he was challenged (sometimes in a fashion that was itself unacceptable). > but I think > maybe the best motto is "Don't get stuck with systemd", with that > phrase being an obvious link, leading to a short list of reasons why > you don't want to get stuck with systemd: > > * Systemd is DIY hostile > * For problems not on the systemd diagnostic "script", systemd makes > troubleshooting much more difficult > * Systemd has a gargantuan attack surface > * Systemd affirmatively and intentionally stumbling-blocks other init > installations. > * Systemd replaces working solutions with new, questionable solutions > This is a great 'second' step - - - pulling in the uninformed is the first step. If you think legislating morality works I would suggest you review the prohibition - - - the legislation really helped little (except for some who became filthy rich at it) and changed nothing - - - at least not that I can tell! I hope I haven't been a serious pot stirrer in this but this discussion seems to be polarizing - - - and if it escalates any more it will only divide an already small group. Wondering if its time to close the topic. I will try very very hard not to respond further! HTH _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng