Thank  you all for your help.  Sorry for the delay in response. I had a hardware issue to deal with, yesterday.  All is well. I've been reading all of the suggestions that were sent.  I will keep you posted with what I come up with.

--Curtis

On 6/23/22 14:57, Rod Rodolico via Dng wrote:
sury breaks devuan since the maintainer decided to use systemd specific libraries to create a temp file. instead, use tdrnetworks, which is basically sury, but gets rid of that dependency.

See
https://kb.unixservertech.com/unix/linux/debian/devuan_sury
for complete information.

I'm running Devuan with ISPConfig3 also.

Rod

On 6/23/22 10:49, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
Hello,

I've been running Devuan on my break even public facing webhosting system for several years.  I've been using ISPConfig and the debian perfect server instructions with adjustments for Devuan.  I'm up to Devuan Beowulf at the moment and trying to go to chimaera so that I can get PHP 7.4 support.  I'm happy to build a new server and migrate sites from Beowulf to Chimaera except that PHP 7.4 goes end of life at the end of November of this year.  The current versions PHP are 8.0 and 8.1.

Using the instructions at packages.sury.org, I am able to add the other versions of PHP except for PHPN.n-fpm due to a (what seems to be a completely unnecessary) dependence upon systemd.

I would love to keep running Devuan.  It runs way better than anything systemd based.  Is there a workaround for this limitation?  I've tried installing the package from chimaera, but it's a couple of minor revisions behind sury.org. It also seems to need a version of libc6 greater than or equal to x.xx.

As a web hoster I need to be able to deploy multiple versions of PHP and I don't see very advanced support for it in Devuan. Developers need to test PHP 8 as it's different enough to cause trouble for apps written intending to run on version 7.4


Trying not to install ubuntu,

--Curtis

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