On 22/08/2013, at 9:36 AM, Geoff Huston <g...@apnic.net> wrote:

> 
> On 22/08/2013, at 12:36 AM, Jon Lewis <jle...@lewis.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> <http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130820_a_question_of_dns_protocols/>
>> 
>> I didn't even get far enough to get to the parts Vixie seems to object to. 
>> It was too painful to read.  It's in desperate need of proof-reading and 
>> copy editing.  Was this translated (poorly) from some other language to 
>> English?
>> 
> 
> My apologies - english is spoken and written in so many styles and I know 
> that my written style can be considered as turgid, particularly when I was 
> not intending to write for a highly expert specialist technical audience such 
> as are on this mailing list.
> 
> So here is what I would say to this audience:
> 
> - How many resolvers and their clients will resolve a DNS name to an address 
> if they are forced to use TCP?
> 
> - Our experiment used a modified DNS server that truncated all UDP at 512 
> bytes, and over 10 days we enlisted some 2 million end clients to perform a 
> set of tests by using online ads. The ad used a very wide geographic and 
> network variety, so there is good grounds to see this set as a reasonable 
> representative sample of the internet's end user population.
> 
> - The authoritative nameserver saw 80,000 visible resolvers. 17% of them 
> (13,400) did not switch to TCP and re-query upon receipt of truncated TCP. 
> 0.4% of them appear to have some inbound TCP-blocking firewall/filter. The 
> rest simply did not respond in TCP
> 
> - These 13,400 resolvers were used by 6% of the end clients.
> 
> - 2/3 of these affected end clients switched to use an alternative resolver 
> that was able to pose the query using UDP.

sigh

"pose the query using UDP and fall back to TCP upon receipt of the truncated 
UDP response"


> 
> - the rest (2%, or 50,000 end clients) were unable to complete the DNS query 
> at all.
> 
> - we retested, using a slightly different DNS nameserver configuration with a 
> smaller UDP truncation threshld, over a further 700,000 end clients and saw a 
> similar outcome.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Geoff
> 

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