Sorry for going dark on this issue.  I appreciate the efforts everyone has put 
into this issue for me and the students in Western
New York.


  1.  172.64.80.1 was blocked by our firewall (I believed based on Fortinet 
malware intelligence).  It was also triggering in Google Chrome as a 
potentially malicious site as well.



Regardless, From Warren’s emails, it looks like this was still not a valid 
address to reach deltamath.com’s web page.



  1.  I am still getting the inconsistent result when querying one of the 
authoritative name servers:
[wbrown@ns3 ~]$ dig @jarred.ns.cloudflare.com deltamath.com +short
172.64.80.1
[wbrown@ns3 ~]$ dig @jarred.ns.cloudflare.com deltamath.com +short

104.26.3.229
104.26.2.229
172.67.75.10

  1.  We have reached out to deltamath in conjunction with the school districts 
and deltamath has reached out to CF on this issue.


At this point, I will let deltamath and CF work this all out.

Again, thank you everyone that assisted with this issue.
--
William Brown
WNYRIC/Erie 1 BOCES
716-821-7285

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This does not seem to be a DNS resolution/misconfiguration issue on 
Cloudflare's end.

https://172.64.80.1/ provides an error message (as it should) indicating it is 
a CloudFlare IP. If you can't see that in a web browser, then the issue is 
local to your network.

The main causes that I gather would be:

1. There was a temporary cache propagation issue on CF's network. (Still not a 
DNS issue.)
2. Your IT department is using 172.0.0.0/9<http://172.0.0.0/9> or possibly even 
172.0.0.0/8<http://172.0.0.0/8> where they intended to use 
172.16.0.0/12<http://172.16.0.0/12> (RFC1918 IP space). This would block access 
to the netblock belonging to Cloudflare and you would have difficulty accessing 
thousands of websites.
                                 Side Note: 172.64.0.0/13<http://172.64.0.0/13> 
belongs to AS13335.

You should always start with your IT department.
If you are a Cloudflare customer, contact them directly.
If you are a DeltaMath customer, then you need to contact them directly.

Sincerely,

Adam Vallee



On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:03 PM Brown, William 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
From: dns-operations 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 On Behalf Of Erik Stian Tefre
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:38 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [dns-operations] Oddness with Cloudfare authoritative servers

> Possibly not a DNS issue at all, but something like this:

> https://community.cloudflare.com/t/revil-ransomware/301435

> (Executive summary: One Cloudflare IP being blocked by a firewall because of 
> a different and misbehaving Cloudflare customer who happened to serve 
> malicious content from that same IP.)

> Regards,
> Erik

Interesting.  The real issue I am experiencing is that I am getting 
inconsistent responses from nominally the same authoritative server.  It just 
so happens that when we get 172.64.80.1 as the answer it fails.  I would prefer 
to get the correct answer so students can use the online educational resource 
the district is paying for.
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