On 8/21/15 7:28 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
>> valid point, however with respect to 6761 the onion namespace
>> substantially predates the existence of 6761 or the consensus documented
>> there so I don't think the what if scenario is particularly helpful
> 
> Indeed, and Stephen pointed that out to me privately as well.  That
> was a mistake in my response to Stephen -- I blew that part.
> 
> Remember, here, that I'm abstaining *not* because I don't want this
> request to be honored, but because requesting these special TLDs in
> this manner doesn't scale.  The .onion request was originally bundled
> with half a dozen others, and was split from it for a reason.  As we
> start to process the other requests, there has to be a line in the
> sand.  Having everyone who has deployed some non-IETF thing that turns
> out to need a TLD reservation ask us to please intervene and reserve
> it for them isn't, I think, what 6761 was meant for, and doesn't
> scale.  That's really the issue for me.
> 
> In any case, my abstaining doesn't have any direct effect on this
> document.

yup, I agree. I am fine with that stance, i just want to make sure we
have a common view of events, I think that's very important as we
address the ongoing problem.

thanks
joel

>  I accept that there's IETF consensus for doing this.  By
> abstaining, I'm simply saying that I can't ballot "no objection", but
> that I won't stand in the way of rough consensus.  I do think it's
> best that we not belabor this further.  As the other ballots come in,
> we'll almost certainly approve this document, and, given the
> importance of Tor, that will be for the best.
> 
> Barry
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