> On Sep 27, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Jim Reid <j...@rfc1035.com> wrote:
> 
> They both come up short as problem statements IMO. I’m struggling to find 
> words to succinctly describe what problem the WG is expected to solve - sorry 
> about that -- since it appears to be a layer 9+ matter. Both drafts seem to 
> be concerned with treating (some of?) the symptoms rather than the root 
> cause(s). Excuse the pun.

Jim,

When we tried to frame this as L9 issues, the overwhelming wg feedback was: 
keep it technical. So we did, and now people realize there is an elephant in 
the room.
We don’t appear to converge here, and maybe we can’t. See the email Ed Lewis 
sent a few days ago...

Alain.

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