Hello,

On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:55, Benno Overeinder wrote:

> We discussed this work (draft -01) in Montreal, and different opinions wrt. 
> adoption were expressed.  In the past months, the authors pushed a draft 
> version -02 that addressed and resolved some of these comments.
>
> This starts a Call for Adoption for:
> draft-song-atr-large-resp
>
> The draft is available here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-atr-large-resp/
>
> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption by 
> DNSOP, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
>
> Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc.  The 
> WG accepts the document or not, but the WG chairs also expect a commitment 
> from the WG participants who support the document to contribute to the draft, 
> review, etc.
>
> The intended status of the draft is Experimental, but we want to ask 
> developers/vendors if they plan to implement it.
>
> This call for adoption ends: 1 February 2019

I oppose adoption. Any implementation of this draft will actively hurt the DNS 
and the Internet, and thus publication as an RFC will actively hurt the DNS and 
the Internet.

The draft doubles the number of packets involved in a legitimate exchange; it 
more than doubles the number of packets involved in a spoofed exchange. About 
half of these packets are ICMP packets. Without the draft, ICMP packets are 
useful debugging aids, and in big numbers, indications of attacks or 
operational problems. With the draft, ICMP becomes another useless source of 
background noise.

Meanwhile, we have no indication that the draft solves any existing real world 
problem in a useful way.

Please do not adopt.

Kind regards,
-- 
Peter van Dijk
PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/

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