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> From: Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org>
> Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Alias mode processing in auths for 
> draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-01
> Date: 6 August 2020 at 06:50:41 AEST
> To: Ben Schwartz <bemasc=40google....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Aug 2020, at 03:07, Ben Schwartz <bemasc=40google....@dmarc.ietf.org 
>> <mailto:bemasc=40google....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:06 PM Pieter Lexis <pieter.le...@powerdns.com 
>> <mailto:pieter.le...@powerdns.com>> wrote:
>> ...
>> Do *both* alias-target{1,2}.example.net <http://example.net/>|SVBC records 
>> end up in the
>> ADDITIONAL section. Or are they (as is the case with an in-zone CNAME)
>> considered an answer and should they go into the ANSWER section?
>> 
>> I think Section 4.1 is pretty clear that everything goes in the Additional 
>> section.  (But this can be changed!) 
> 
> It MUST go in the additional section.  It is not actually a alias.  It is a 
> record that says what the names of the servers for the server are.  This is 
> no different to MX or SRV in that usage.  Just stop using the loaded word 
> “ALIAS” as it isn’t a alias.
> 
>> I find the alias mode semantics (on the DNS-level) unclear and
>> under-specified in the draft. I look forward to guidance from the authors.
>> 
>> And I look forward to guidance from you!  How do you think it should work?  
>> Send text!
>> 
>> Personally, I'd like to know which of these questions actually need to be 
>> resolved in the standard, and which can safely be left to the discretion of 
>> implementors.  Is there a compatibility concern with any of these questions, 
>> or is it only a question of consistency across implementations?
>> 
>> Conceptually, AliasMode is not a CNAME: it only affects SVCB queries (not 
>> other RR types), and can safely be implemented entirely as an RFC 3597 
>> Unknown RR Type.  That suggests that it is at least safe, and perhaps 
>> least-surprising, for the authoritative server to put all responses for 
>> other owner names in the Additional section, as the current text seems to 
>> indicate fairly clearly.
>> 
>> P..S. The text on this point has recently changed: 
>> https://github.com/MikeBishop/dns-alt-svc/pull/199#discussion_r444979971.  
>> One of the questions there is what should happen for 
>> AliasMode->CNAME->ServiceMode->AAAA, all in-bailiwick.  The draft says 
>> "Clients and recursive resolvers MUST follow CNAMEs as normal.", but it no 
>> longer says anything about authoritatives.
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