This document seems to propose that "https" URLs will route through gateways
that terminate end-to-end security, destroying the "https" scheme's
confidentiality and integrity properties. That's a red flag for me.
Rather than trying to retrofit compatibility with existing terrestrial
protocols into this (hypothetical and quite distant) scenario, I think we would
be better served by developing protocols that serve real demands today, and
delaying other technical solutions until real demand appears.
--Ben
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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model
Just spitballing, but instead of a new TLD, what about "{earth,moon,mars}. sol.
arpa" as your suffix? This seems like it's right in the wheelhouse of the
"Address Resolution Parameter Area". . . https: //en. wikipedia. org/wiki/. arpa
Just spitballing, but instead of a new TLD, what about
"{earth,moon,mars}.sol.arpa" as your suffix?
This seems like it's right in the wheelhouse of the "Address Resolution
Parameter Area"...
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Subject: [dtn] An Interplanetary DNS Model
Hi Everyone,
Sorry for the 4-way cross posting, but I wanted to reach all of those
parties who may have interest.
I have published an internet-draft version of a document I have been
privately publishing, in order that the community may understand, pick
apart, improve, and fill in the blanks. This is in response to community
interest and related efforts, in order that we best arrive at a
standardized practice and architecture for Interplanetary Internet
communications. I welcome and look forward to comments which could help
us reach this laudable goal. I am not sure of the exact venue for WG
adoption, given the scope of the concepts. As such will I refrain from
asking for WG adoption at this time, pending discussion from the DTN and
DNS communities.
Please find the draft here:
https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-johnson-interplanetary-dns%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cbryce.l.nordgren%40usda.gov%7Ca6aa16d3a3434c34031208dcaa2d44ba%7Ced5b36e701ee4ebc867ee03cfa0d4697%7C1%7C0%7C638572358631001081%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BTPmN%2B7FDxrLZPRDDZZoD6YNKHG1d5ROtFlDjqZg1Vs%3D&reserved=0<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-johnson-interplanetary-dns/__;!!Bt8RZUm9aw!_N7LqI5sf1ijYlASESh0OzUNz0gZuCr9ISNcnIYLubqXOH6SB3e5_jXxZD4XHQpGiYnUmCwa18xWFAe4xkCUI96i9UU$>
I would also be interested in revisiting Marc Blanchet's smtp and http
over BP related drafts in the light of the above document, to see if
adaptation can be made to make these efforts dovetail together.
Thanks to all,
Scott Johnson
Spacely Packets, LCC
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