Hi Dean!

I will note that the only question before the wg associated with this particular mailing list is whether or not these two drafts might benefit from adoption as working group documents. Comments on the content seems somewhat orthogonal to that goal, but since you asked here, I'll reply here.

On 23-Jun-2006, at 15:19, Dean Anderson wrote:

Section 3.3 should removed. Choice of host operating system has no relevance to DNS operations. Use of loopback interfaces etc, is likewise irrelevant.

Thanks for the feedback.

   draft-jabley-as112-being-attacked-help-help-00

This draft seems to entirely miss the point, and unhelpfully belittles the fact that AS112 servers may in fact be used (perhaps have already been used) to
conduct DOS attacks.

If you can provide details to expand upon the fact you describe above, that would be most helpful. Without some context, I am struggling to understand what you are talking about.

I have rarely seen IDS systems alarm over genuine DNS traffic to external
servers.

I have no reason to doubt you. However, having been one of the small group of people responsible for answering the phone when people call the AS112 netblock contact, I can tell you that your experience is not universal.

Your advice to treat reports of abuse seriously is of course valid, but unnecessary in this case.

Having been recently in the unenviable position[1] of answering phone
calls from angry people regarding the denial-of-service attack from
PRISONER.IANA.ORG on their firewalls (source port 53),

Probably you should have responded differently to their calls: They were
probably legitimate DOS attacks involving AS112 servers.

All the calls I responded to were investigated thoroughly. I have no reason to doubt that any of the other calls which were handled with others enjoyed any less diligence.

None of the calls I responded to related to DOS attacks involving AS112 servers; all of them involved replies being returned from the Internet towards hosts that firewall admins had not considered might ever send requests to the outside world.


Joe
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