2013/1/13 Regina Henschel <[email protected]>

> Hi Ricardo,
>
> RGB ES schrieb:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> I propose to omit the version number level. As can be seen for ODFAuthors
> it is unlikely, that all documents are new written for a new version and
> sometimes it is not needed at all. LibreOffice 4.0 is in RC1, but some
> documents are for 3.4, some for 3.5, and 3.6 is missing totally. The
> situation becomes worse, if you think of documentations in other languages.
>
> I propose this way: Use a hierarchy
> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**Tips/Writer
> or
> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**Writer/Tips
> I'm not sure about the best order.
>
> If some content becomes outdated and has to be replaced, then generate a
> new page with the same title, but a version addition.
>
> Example: A outdated content in the path
> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**General/UI/Customize_Toolbar
> would be copied to a path
> /wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/**General/UI/Customize_Toolbar_**3_4
> and the original page gets a comment line with a link to the old version
> and the old version gets a comment line back to the newer version.
> This has to be done by the person, who writes the new content.
>
> This has the advantage, that there will be no tree of empty pages, but the
> user will always come to the most actual document, when he starts in
> /wiki/Documentation and follows the tree.
>

Good point! I like the idea of moving outdated content to sub-pages.



>
> In the start, when not enough actual content is available, this single
> comment line can link to the existing ODFAuthors 3.3 or 3.2 documents or
> other suitable wiki pages.
>
>
>
>
>> The idea is to create all the pages at once, with just the categories
>> "Documentation" and "UserGuide" and a template similar to the one we use
>> on
>> the ES wiki(2) for "work in process new pages", that we can call "Draft"
>> (not sure if there is one already: I cannot find it).
>>
>
> Creating a new "UserGuide" section is OK, but same other sections need to
> be there from the beginning too. I think of pathes to the developers guide,
> to the building guide, to the QA tutorials, to the Calc functions reference.


Sure. We can update the main documentation page(1) to gather all those
elements on one place.

(1) http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation



>
>
>
>> In parallel, we can start discussing about writing style, screenshots
>> (desktop theme...) and related problems on other topics.
>>
>
> There is the page http://wiki.openoffice.org/**
> wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/**Wiki_Editing_Policy<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Wiki_Editing_Policy>.
> It is already fairly good, and can be used as start. Adaption to AOO is of
> cause needed.


Thanks for the link! Looking there I see that the DraftPage template is
already present: {{Documentation/DraftPage}}



>
>
>
>> After "seeding" some pages with content we start a call for authors and
>> the
>> "real writing"(3). Finally, when the author is ready he/she calls for
>> review/proof reading and when every is OK we delete the "Draft" template.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>
> I fear, a lot a pages will stay "draft" for ever.
>
> What are your plans about the old Dokumentation hierarchy ?
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/**
> Wiki_Editing_Policy#Structure_**of_the_Documentation_Section_**of_the_Wiki<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Wiki_Editing_Policy#Structure_of_the_Documentation_Section_of_the_Wiki>



No plans, for the moment. I just tried to start the discussion for a self
contained 4.0 user guide written from scratch and easy to maintain.

The structure of the Documentation section on the wiki is indeed quite
complex and it is difficult for a new user to tell apart what's still
valid. Maybe we need to make a completely fresh start here, moving old
content to a "legacy" section... but on the other hand we cannot left the
site empty.

Regards
Ricardo



>
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>

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