Hi, Well, I solved my problems with rules above the footers ... Blush, you need a 'lenght: <some-length>' in a (make rule ...) if you want the rule to reliably print. I don't know why, but JadeTex would print out the full hrule, even though Length was zero, or would print out two half rules or something, except when a table preceeded the bottom of the page. Regards ------- Richard Sharpe, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Samba (Team member, www.samba.org), Ethereal (Team member, www.ethereal.com) Contributing author, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours Author, Special Edition, Using Samba ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this elist send a message with the single word "unsubscribe" in the body to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]