Hi Bob,

Thanks very much. I'll download the latest snapshot and give it a try.

Dick
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On Apr 2, 2015, at 11:44, Bob Stayton <b...@sagehill.net> wrote:

> Hi Dick,
> This was actually an oversight when the dbfo-need template was written.  That 
> feature is a bit of a kludge to begin with, because there is no property in 
> XSL-FO that performs that function. The PI does it by creating a 
> block-container of the specified height, then backspacing up to the top of 
> that container with a negative space-before value to output the content that 
> follows.  If the container does not fit, it forces a page break, otherwise 
> the content should just overwrite the container.
> 
> But getting the spacing right is tricky, and the template has to resort to 
> testing to see what the following element is and then tries to recreate that 
> space.  It did not have a case for admonitions, hence the lack of space for 
> the warning element.
> 
> I just updated the pi.xsl stylesheet module, checked it into SVN, and tested 
> the latest snapshot.  So that admonition problem should be fixed.
> 
> I also got dbfo-need working properly with FOP 1.1.  A previous message 
> mentioned that your example worked with FOP 1.1, but that was just a lucky 
> happenstance that only worked with the fop1.extensions param was not set.  
> Now that feature works with FOP 1.1 with that param set to 1 as it should be.
> 
> The updated template is in the snapshot in fo/pi.xsl.
> 
> Bob Stayton
> Sagehill Enterprises
> b...@sagehill.net
> 
> On 4/1/2015 12:47 PM, Richard Hamilton wrote:
>> I just ran into an interesting edge case when building with dbfo-need when 
>> the following conditions are true:
>> 
>> 1) You have a dbfo-need processing instruction above an admonition (warning, 
>> tip, etc.)
>> 2) The admonition is the last element in a section (technically, the last 
>> block element; an indexterm doesn't change anything).
>> 3) The dbfo-need is not activated (that is, the admonition is small enough 
>> to fit on the current page).
>> 
>> When these three things are true, the vertical space between the preceding 
>> paragraph and the admonition will be smaller if there is a dbfo-need than if 
>> the processing instruction is not present.
>> 
>> I was running the 1.78.1 stylesheets (as well as a more recent snapshot) 
>> with no customization, Saxon, and XEP. I don't have a version of FOP active, 
>> so I don't know if this is a problem with XEP, the stylesheets, or something 
>> else.
>> 
>> I've included a short example that illustrates the problem.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any idea what might be going on here?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Dick Hamilton
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>> ================ Sample docbook =================
>> 
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>> <article xmlns="http://docbook.org/ns/docbook"; version="5.0">
>>   <title>dbfo-need and admonition example</title>
>>   <section xml:id="s.shorthistory">
>>     <title>First section</title>
>>     <para>This first admonition has a dbfo-need processing instruction in 
>> front of it.</para>
>>     <?dbfo-need height="1in"?>
>>     <warning>
>>       <para>This one has a dbfo-need in front of it.</para>
>>     </warning>
>>   </section>
>>   <section>
>>     <title>Second section</title>
>>     <para>This admonition does not have a dbfo-need processing instruction 
>> in front of it.</para>
>>     <warning>
>>       <para>This one has no dbfo-need in front of it.</para>
>>     </warning>
>>   </section>
>> </article>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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