Thomas Klausner wrote:

Hi!
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Stas Bekman wrote:


I've noticed that the HTML for the menu comes after the main content
body. So if CSS is not supported you get the menu at the bottom, since
it's the last one in the HTML sequence.

Wouldn't this problem go away if we put the menu HTML code first? Any
reason for putting it last?

The reason I did it this way is that I personally hate to have to
scroll down to get to "real" content if I browse a site with lynx.

Currently, if you don't have CSS enabled, the site looks like a "non-frame
version" but you can still use it very well (although the navigation is
more gopher-like, but thanks to the prev/next widget you /can/ move
"sideways").

If the menubar would come first, you'd have to scroll past it on every
page, which I find annoying.

IMO the page degrades better this way.

Another (minor) advantage is that the content is displayed first. Nobody
vists the mod_perl site to view our marvelous NavBar, the users are there
for the content.

I understand your reasoning. But I doubt it will apply to the majority of users. Especially for pages with a very long content. Not very user friendly I must say. Users spend most of their time on the page reading the content, the scrolling down takes a few moments. However when you navigate the site looking for what you need to read this is going to be a huge pain.


-1 on this concept. Shows that I didn't test it with lynx in first place :( and was happy with what I saw under mozilla. Sorry for not doing this in first place.

Any chance that we can have some very minimal tables to get things working for non-CSS browsers, without hurting the current design?

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