[Ek. This one went to Thomas in private the first time, excuses for that]

On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 10:26:54PM +0100, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> It is rather impossoble to answer this question without defining the goal of
> perl.apache.org
> 
> Should it be:
> * a collection of documentations
> * a hangout for developers
> * a advocacy site
> * a place to sell books
> * ???
> 
> Depending on this desicion (which also defines the main target group) we can
> decide what desing to implement.
> 
> If you look at the size of the various parts of the page, it comes clear,
> that most of the content is documentation/tips/tricks, some is advocacy,
> very little is selling books, and nothing is hangout.
> 
> So, leave the hangout to #modperl IRC.
> Leave the bookselling to the author's pages.

Agreed. Although both might be credited links on the pages somewhere.

> Which leaves us with tons of documentation and some advocacy.

Which IMO is the most important part of the site. 

> At least from my impression of the mod_perl mailing list, the guide is a
> very often and heavily used tool by mod_perl uses (or actually, as most
> questions are answered with "read the guide", it should be...).
> 
> So IMO the most important function of perl.apache.org should be to provide
> an easy, fast and simple interface to the docs. (the "Documentation" section)
> The second most important function should be to make it ease for newcomers
> to install mod_perl. (The "Download" section)
> Then, how to use the mailing list (and maybe how to behave there) ("Mailing
> Lists")
> Products, Support, Technologie, Statisics is the stuff to show your boss to
> convice him/her to use mod_perl.
> 
> It seems to me that the site is mostly used by techies, who don't really
> care about fancy desings, nice buttons etc, but for fast and easy access to
> the stuff they want (that's at least true for me)

But we still need to have a site that will attract manager types to use
the powerfull app that is mod_perl.

> So, my conclusion:
> While I find Allan's design very nice and cool, I think it doesn't mix to
> well with a target group of techies; or, maybe better said: it provides a
> very nice look, that nobody asks for.
> 
> I suggest using a simpler, basic desing, without all those fancy lines and
> boxes, thats still nice-looking and working on all browsers.
> I think my last design
> http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/
> reaches this goal quite good from the HTML-CSS view, while it can definitly
> be made better with regards to colors, headings, widgets...

It looks good, is functional. That's all I want from the documentation
part of the website.

-- 
  Thomas Eibner <http://thomas.eibner.dk/> DnsZone <http://dnszone.org/>
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