hello

these shots are from a mac system:

http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/b/domm-version_ns479_mac.gif
http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/b/cvs-version_ns479_mac.gif

please keep in mind that comments below are from one page
only (download/binaries.html). i probably have further
comments for other details only presents on other pages


cvs-version = http://www.apache.org/~stas/modperl-site/download/binaries.html
domm-version: http://domm.zsi.at/modperl-site-domm/download/binaries.html

and referering:
al-version = 
http://www.apache.org/~stas/preview/allan_24_1/download/binaries.html


my general view of what could be better is:

1) (both)
more whitespace between top-widgets and text


2) (domm-version)
remove arrows from menu  - (or remove them from lists). 
why? having them both places looks mis-guiding IMO and i
much prefer them in the lists.
(why did you use tables for this version of the menu ?)

3) (cvs-version)
the menu (box-type) looks bad in ns4.7 - and i think thomas
you agree that this is just not fixable without the use of
tables (see al-version)


4) (both)
we need to fix the colored crossbars at least for ns4+ as
they don't span 100%. i think it is a dangerous approach to
have th h1-tags background-colored.
instead put them inside div tags which are more natural to
have a background-color in. div tags are more glad to
margin-values as well and these are needed at least for ns4+.


4) (both)
i dont mind the use of small/x-small etc. but this is an
endless road to trouble if we want fonts to appear more or
less the same cross browser. i have had relatively good
results (read, no complaints) with em font-sizes (which is a
relative notation)


5) (both)
link colors.
i guess the blue and underlined is ok for userbility reasons
but we should at least have a
red/pink for visited, no? i suggest #993333. 


6)  (both)
hover color
i also like the fact that ie/opera/mozilla supports the
hover style for the anchor tag (i suggest #666666)- what do
you think about this?


6) (both)
i suggest kill the table of contents header completely.
(if we knew we had to implement the search function now i
would suggest the version where the test-field is
incorperated into the table of contents title-bar. so my
cuurent suggestion is to in fact integrate the search this
way and then out-comment the whole title-bar


7) (both)
h1-h6.
i am very fond of the background-color used for these
(#dddddd). what i dont like though, is that too many of them
inside the contents gets annoying IMO. currently i suggest
using those from al-version

8) (cvs-version)
h1-h6.
the actual size (relative or not) of these should be
specified in the stylesheets IMO


9) (domm-version) 
toolbar (in need of a better word: search pdf/src prev|up|next)
this one works better than the cvs-version.
so i vote for:
breadcrumb
title
pdf|src     prev|up|next
content

not:
breadcrumb
title
pdf     prev|up|next
src
content

10)
the images for download widget should have specified image proportions


11) (all versions)
there is a ie/mac browser bug i guess that prevents it from
fethcing the stylesheet. 
this is caused by the path being:
././../style.css 
where it should be just 
../style.css
it could also be
.././style.css

12)
style.
as well as perl style we should have (encouraged) a
consequent (?) html style.
i know we diagree on this as well and its late in the
process but i suggest we find a common ground on this as well:)

- use tabs for indention
- use " (double qoutes) for values
- lowercase all tags


./allan

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