Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:
At 19:11 23.04.2002, Stas Bekman wrote:

Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:

At 16:33 23.04.2002, Stas Bekman wrote:

I was thinking that we need more shortcuts, and we need two groups: 1.x and 2.x. Which means that the shortcuts menu will be too big. I'm thinking to move the shortcuts into a dedicated document and link to it from the main menu. The drawback is that one will need to click twice to get to the wanted place (instead of once), though we will be able to provide more shortcuts and more nicerly organized.


I think we need to keep it where it is. It's fast an efficient. On the other hand, you don't need to have too many items.
Downloads


Right, I forgot this one. And now you need two of these, or people will do the wrong things.


No, they can choose mod_perl 1 or 2 for themselves on the Downloads page. If they can't do *that*, they need a *lot* of help, more than we can give them. We can also add a paragraph explaining the difference between 1.x and 2.x on the Downloads page.

You will be surprised.

In any case we have the 'Download' entry in the menu already. What's the added value of having it in the shortcuts?

install 2.x (getwet for 2.x)


I think that can be as a link from the Download page.

why? You provide shortcuts, why in the world should I expect to find the install info on the download page.


reporting problems 2.x


This can be merged with 1.x report I think.

It's already hard enough, we don't want to make it harder.

See, because of the unnecessary restraints that you try to impose, the original intention is going to be crippled in this way. And a pity.

Moving them to a separate beats the point of having shortcuts.


Well I'll say it again: These "shortcuts" aren't to make you click less,
they are to get to the final target with minimal thinking and wondering.
I've counted at least 7 items and there will be more, believe me. That's already not shortcuts since you have to scroll down to get to them. If you need to scroll-down you can click to get to the much better page.


The shortcuts are a powerful feature, and it would be good to have a minimalistic list for "real shortcuts". Can't we just separate our ideas into 2 sets: one for the menu 8with ery few items), and one shortcut page like you're talking about?

That will only confuse people. If you want just a few items put them into the main menu after e.g. -------- separator, no need for a whole new box.


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* perl.apache.org *
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* What's mod_perl *
* ...             *
* ...             *
* Jobs            *
* --------------- *
* 1.x guide       *
* mail archive    *
* more shortcuts  *
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*      search     *
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Moreover the IMHO shortcuts are mostly useful when you are at the root of the site, when go to perl.apache.org to read something and leave. Which means that they are redundant on all other pages, which means that they shouldn't be inlined in the menu. That's me thinking of course.


That's true, but that means they need to stay on the first page :)

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