Hi!

I read the legals of software in Hungary. I see no problems of the
screenshot neighter in windows, neighter in opensource, because you are
working for open source: libreoffice, and the windows or opensource OS, is
just a frame, and you can cut of the screenshot the startbar in windows and
tha it's just the program, witch could be form any KDE.
But avoiding the USA policy I will do the screenshots in ubuntu. We don't
want any problems I think. :D I would do it in Mac, but don't want to buy a
Mac for 3000 euro...

Hobbit

2011/7/7 Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>

> Hi :)
> I think Apple are a lot less protective of screen-shots of their DE.  It's
> all
> based on FreeBsd anyway!  However they do put a LOT of work into creating a
> very
> distinctive style so it's possible they are worse than MS are reputed to
> be.
>
>
> Gnu&Linux distros are likely to be more sensible and see it as free
> advertising.
>
>
> I think we should aim at being consistent for now for new screen-shots,
> because
> we have excellent people such as Jaimon that are able to focus on doing
> screen-shots for people that haven't got the agreed themes.  This means
> some
> people can focus on the words without having to worry about side-issues.
>
>
> After the Design Team arrive at a conclusion and after Jean gets back i
> think
> that would be a better time to discuss screen-shots in future releases of
> documentation.
>
>
> Haphazard and ill-considered differences will detract from our
> documentation and
> there is no need for it when we have a good system for producing higher
> quality
> results.  Jaimon & Jean have put a lot of work into this.  Please, lets not
> spoil it for them now!
>
> At the moment the screen-shots seem more on a level that competes with
> Apple's
> aim of high quality artistic simplicity & skill.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Nelson <li...@traduction.biz>
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org; des...@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Thu, 7 July, 2011 5:59:38
> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Screenshots for LibreOffice
> documentation
>
> Hi Jay, *,
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:26 AM, planas <jsloz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Unless someone is willing to spend the time and money to properly
> > research the US legal issues, the safest course is avoid any chance of
> > putting us into a possible legal crosshairs. I have neither. The problem
> > is that no one has come forward who is US  attorney and knowledgeable on
> > software related issues to advise us. MS could consider LO as a direct
> > competitor to MSO and thus would look for our legal blunders committed
> > out of ignorance of US law.
> >
> > It may be more tedious for us to make sure our screenshots do not show
> > anything that would imply a Windows OS but it is safer. I doubt any
> > Linux distro would be upset if their desktop was identifiable in one of
> > our screenshots. In fact a subtle plug could made by saying all the
> > screenshots were made on various Linux distros. Many Windows users think
> > we are command line using dinosaurs and would be surprised to see a
> > vaguely familiar desktop.
>
> Well, if one *were* to accept that the risk might possibly exist in
> the US, I somehow *feel* that Microsoft would be much less likely to
> succeed in such hypothetical action in European courts. Also,
> certainly in Europe, Microsoft would be likely to attract loud
> criticism and incite hostile activism in doing so.
>
> But, even if one were to avoid Windows screenshots to the greatest
> extent possible (it being difficult to produce good Windows
> installation guides - for example - without taking screenshots under
> Windows), I still would not like to see the English docs team and
> website team taking its screenshots purely under Linux/Unix. What
> about the Macintosh platform? I'd certainly like to encourage more
> involvement from Mac users.
>
> Also, in response to a conversation taking place currently on the
> Design mailing list (the which list I'm CC'ing), it's my personal
> feeling that it is not especially beneficial to ensure that all
> screenshots look identical (in terms of the theme used). Nor do I
> personally feel it's particularly beneficial to ensure that all
> screenshots be taken using a theme based on colors from the
> LibreOffice Design/Marketing pallet.
>
> An English documentation contributor's guide has been developed with
> rational recommendations for the taking of screenshots, and I think it
> largely addresses the issues that really matter in terms of their
> usability/suitability.
>
> However, I feel that we should make it as easy as possible for new
> English docs and website contributors to get involved, and not set-up
> unnecessary requirements in terms of software used and GUI
> environment. And I also feel we should *celebrate* the possible
> diversity of OS and GUI for running LibreOffice, and need not shun
> variety of colors and themes in screenshots either for English
> LibreOffice documentation or for LibreOffice websites.
>
> Anyway, this is just to make clear my own POV on the subject one final
> time. Thanks for reading, if you did.
>
> --
> David Nelson
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