Hi :) I like the sound of both ideas for the watermark and/or for the discrete mention in a header. Either way sounds good to me but there is something sexier about a watermark.
I think the Getting Started guide's chapter on Base should stay as is because at least there is something there even if it's not perfect. I'm happy with other ideas about that tho especially because i have no idea what is in the newer version. Mostly i was just interested in getting the material up in the Base Guide because it contains stuff we don't have available elsewhere. Adding new stuff to the wiki shows people that work is being done and shows that you are getting results. This is more important with Base because it would be a bit of a morale boost to people working on other aspects of Base, such as the devs. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 12/1/12, Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 12 January, 2012, 4:13 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 13:47, Dan Lewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 11:56 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: >> On 12/01/2012, at 8:44, Dan Lewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 06:47 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: >> >> On 11/01/2012, at 22:13, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Dan :) >> >>> Normally we wouldn't do this but would it be good to upload those >> >>> incomplete chapters or works-in-progress to the wiki? >> >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications >> >>> Updates could always be uploaded to replace them later? >> >>> Regards from >> >>> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >> Could also (or instead) put them on the ODFAuthors website. >> >> >> >> I have no objection to putting the Base Guide drafts on the wiki, but I >> >> suggest not on the same page as the officially published docs -- unless >> >> clearly marked as DRAFTs. >> >> >> >> I've seen a lot of confusion (and accusations of poor quality) from >> >> people who get hold of user guide drafts thinking they are finished >> >> documents. They get passed around from one user to another and not >> >> everyone realises there might be a more up to date version or where to >> >> get it. Of course, some of our "finished" docs are a bit rougher than >> >> we'd prefer, but that's a separate problem. >> >> >> >> Jean >> > >> > Then again the drafts can be clearly marked as drafts using a >> > watermark? Just a thought. >> > Then again, chapters 2-4 are written for OOo and need some >> > modifications before they will be ready for LO "use". >> > I going to think about this during the evening and annouce what I >> > will be doing in the "morning" (by 1400 UTC). >> > >> > --Dan >> > >> >> >> Yes, and I'm thinking that this would be a very good thing to do. Put it in >> the header or footer, not as a "watermark" as such, much as I did for the >> "Free eBook Edition" notice on some of the OOo PDFs. That way it's obvious >> but doesn't interfere with the text, and it's quick and easy to remove when >> we declare the document "final". >> >> Jean > > Here is what I have done: I have made two graphics containing the > word "Draft". I made the larger graphic the background for the Chapter > page which shows Draft 2 cm in height at the bottom of the page. > (Selected position instead of Tiled or Area, and then selected the > bottom center position.) I made the smaller graphic the background for > the OOoFooter adding tab spaces in the footer to increase the number of > lines so that the word Draft appears in the center of all the footers. I > the created a header and modified it in a similar way. So, every page of > the text had the word Draft at the top and bottom. > To undo all of this takes only a few steps. > 1) Remove the background for the title page (OOoFirst Page). > 2) Remove the background for the footer style (OOoFooter). > 3) Remove the extra tab spaces so that the footer contains only one > line. > 4) Remove the header in the OOoPage style. > > One more question: where should these draft chapter be placed so > they will be available without having to have sign into ODFAuthor? > > --Dan > People do not have to sign into ODFAuthors to *download* docs, IF those docs have a State of "Externally visible" (probably the folder hierarchy needs to be "Externally visible" too). They only need to sign in to upload docs, or to see items with other States. That said, it might be preferable to put them on the LO wiki, though I'm not sure what might be the best page to put them on. Some thoughts follow. For the Base Guide, it would be easy enough (and, I think, clear enough) to put them on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications (as Tom suggested), but change the chapter names in the LibreOffice Base Guide section to read, for example, "2 Name of Chapter -- DRAFT" (and include only the ODT?). The GS with Base chapter is a bit messier, since v3.4 goes into a second column for that book, and so DRAFT would need to go into that column... which doesn't fit the layout as well. Minor detail! And I like the idea of putting some of the other developed, but not "finished", chapters there as well. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
