Spliting guides woule be DESASTROUS ... imagine someone trying to get help on a guide having to find the info they need on ANOTHER guide ... sorry this will not work, it is easier to have a step by step aproach and let those who need it jump to the sections they want.
GS with BASE whould IMHO be related to the simple task of making a adress book (see BASE TUTORIAL by Mariano Casanova) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf At least this is what we plan on translating next for BASE in Brazil Rogerio 2012/2/5 Dan Lewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com> > Perhaps, but I'm thinking that Base like the other guides will > have people using only parts of the guide. Some will use the simple, and > others with use the complex. So, I wonder about splitting Base or any of > the other guides. Who knows, someone beginning with the simple might > decide to try something more complex. Would they do so if it was not in > the guide they had? And what about maintenance of the guides? That seems > to be adding extra work. I suppose I like the idea of having the guide > go from the simpler to the more complex using one outline. This seems to > be simpler than using two outlines when writing: the simple, and the > advanced. Just some of my thoughts. > > --Dan > > On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:45 +0000, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) I like that plan :) I think splitting the guide would be easier > > after this incarnation of it is completed. I think we need something > > solid and "out there" (released and published on Lulu) before we can > > really make sense of exactly what does and what doesn't work well in > > those sorts of splits. I guess that since this one is looking like > > being the advanced one then a slimmer one for a flat database might be > > easier for someone afterwards? > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > --- On Sun, 5/2/12, Dan Lewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > From: Dan Lewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com> > > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Base > > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > > Date: Sunday, 5 February, 2012, 19:33 > > > > What I have been thinking about for some time but never really got > > a round to doing: > > 1. Getting Started with Base chapter containing a flat database created > > by the Wizards with the basics of what to do. > > 2. Base Guide: (first four chapters that is) > > a. Introduction to Base: creating a relational database with the > > basics of what to do. > > b. Planning/Designing databases: what is needed when planning a > > database and how to > > turn the plan into the database's design. Contains examples of a > > flat database and a > > more complex relational database. (Thorough explanation of the > > principles.) > > c. Data Input and Removal: thorough explanation of the principles of > > the tables and > > forms including use of SQL in creating, modifying, and deleting > > tables. > > d. Data Output: thorough explanation of the principles of queries, > > views, and reports. > > > > --Dan > > > > On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 19:03 +0000, Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > I used to think that Base might need 2 "Getting Started" guides. > > > 1. for people just doing data-entry and normal user perhaps with > routine maintenance > > > 2. for designers building a database and front-end and for advanced > maintenance. > > > > > > Writing for 1 would be a nightmare due to the huge variety that is > possible when building a database with Base as the front-end. I don't > think we can really do even a basic generic enough guide until after the > one for 2 is done. > > > > > > Hazel are you saying my 2 would really need to be split into two too? > If only 2 sections need to be moved out of the GS Chapter then would that > chapter still make sense? Wouldn't it remove something crucial? The GS > Guide is just meant to be an appetiser rather than go into tons of detail. > Chances are that most users will only use Base through using mail-merge > and stuff like that so we really need to keep it as simple as possible. If > the chapter still makes sense then moving those sections to the full guide > for Base would be great imo too. > > > Regards from > > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted