Tom, a slight correction: I have not yet looked at Ch5. --Jean

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 19:17, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi :)
> I think Jean is already happy with 2-5 so feel free to upload them.
>
> The Ch1 is not showing on the wiki-page yet so i think it still needs to have 
> the link added to the page.  I might have time to do that later.  Also down 
> the right-hand-side panel bit the "Recent Changes" shows the last few changes 
> across all the different parts of the wiki and i couldn't see the upload 
> logged in there.  I must admit i found the uploading process quite difficult 
> to work out, i think the submit button or whatever was hidden just off the 
> bottom of my screen (1024by768).  Once you have done it 1 time it is very 
> easy.
>
> I might have time to have a look and maybe help with uploading or editing the 
> wiki-page later but please don't count on me!
> Apols and regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 16/2/12, Peter Schofield <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Peter Schofield <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO 3.5 release announced
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, 16 February, 2012, 7:40
>
> Hello Jean & Tom
>
> I shall start at Chap 6 and onward to version 3.5 then come back to Chap 1 to 
> 5.
>
> I have had a quick check and there seems to little change for Impress, but 
> the devil is in the detail.
>
> Please publish Chap 2 to 5 to the wikki when you have checked them. Chap 1 is 
> already on the wikki.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 15 Feb 2012, at 21:06, Jean Weber wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Unless there are major differences from 3.4 to 3.5 that would affect
>> Chs1-5, I suggest you start updating to 3.5 from Ch 6. When Chs 6-11 &
>> App A are done, then go back to Chs1-5 and update them from 3.4 to
>> 3.5.
>>
>> Meanwhile I will put Chs 1-5 on the wiki in the v3.4 column (unless
>> you do it first). They probably don't need the "Draft" designation
>> that Tom mentioned in a later note, with the possible exception of
>> Ch5. I'll do a quick check of Ch5 which I don't think I've looked at
>> previously.
>>
>> What do you think of that idea?
>>
>> --Jean
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 16:09, Peter Schofield <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello Jean and Tom
>>>
>>> I can easily start upgrading 3.4 Impress to 3.5 Impress.
>>>
>>> Chapters 1 to 5 Impress 3.4 would have to be upgraded as they are published 
>>> or very close to being published.
>>>
>>> I have Chapter 6 Impress 3.4 already downloaded on my iMac ready to start 
>>> an upgrade to version 3.4 or 3.5.
>>>
>>> I will download LO3.5 onto my very old Toshiba (my test laptop) to check 
>>> the differences with LO3.4.
>>>
>>> Start upgrading to 3.5 - YES or NO? Not a problem for me.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 01:44, Jean Weber wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Tom. I was thinking much the same thing, which I summarise here:
>>>>
>>>> * Finish GS 3.4 and Writer 3.4, both of which are well advanced, and
>>>> once I get a chance to go through John's work and upload some I've
>>>> been doing, will be nearly done; then start on v3.5 for both of them.
>>>>
>>>> * Skip Calc 3.4, Draw 3.4 and Math 3.4 and go directly to v 3.5,
>>>> because AFAIK little has been done on those books for v3.4.
>>>>
>>>> * Finish Impress 3.4 OR skip and go to v 3.5, whatever Peter prefers
>>>> (since he's doing the work). I haven't checked yet to see if there are
>>>> major differences in Impress from 3.4 to 3.5.
>>>>
>>>> * Continue with Base Guide for whatever version Dan prefers (since
>>>> he's doing the work).
>>>>
>>>> --Jean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 00:54, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi :)
>>>>> I think that for most of the guides we should skip the 3.4.x branch 
>>>>> completely and just work on 3.5.x.  Exceptions (imo) should be GS, 
>>>>> Writer, Base and possibly Calc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the GS guide is important for each branch as it covers the most 
>>>>> 'obvious' stuff that people need to know.  Similarly for Writer.  Writer 
>>>>> is the main app that most people use most of the time so it's important 
>>>>> to get that guide out for each branch too.  With Base i don't think it 
>>>>> would even matter if different chapters were for different branches!  The 
>>>>> important thing is just to get a first version out there and then worry 
>>>>> about consistency afterwards.  I'm not sure about Calc.  It's probably 
>>>>> the 2nd most used app but still quite a long way behind Writer.  The 
>>>>> Users List almost never hears from people using Impress.  So either the 
>>>>> Impress Guide is stunningly good and significantly better than the other 
>>>>> guides or it's the one that people do read before jumping in or Impress 
>>>>> is very intuitive for people or not many people are using it, or some 
>>>>> combination of those.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, i think complete GS and Writer for 3.4.x branch, keep going with Base 
>>>>> and skip the rest?  What do other people think?  Are any of the other 
>>>>> guides (or even 'just' odd chapters) near completion?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also don't forget that while 3.3.x and 3.4.x started at almost the same 
>>>>> time and ran alongside each other the 3.5.x and future branches wont run 
>>>>> in the same way.  There will be some overlap with one branch ending just 
>>>>> after another has started but not such a huge overlap as the first 2 
>>>>> branches.
>>>>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
>>>>> Regards from
>>>>> Tom :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Tue, 14/2/12, Jean Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Jean Weber <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] LO 3.5 release announced
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 11:36
>>>>>
>>>>> The release of LO 3.5 has just been announced. We are falling further
>>>>> behind, team!
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had only a brief look at v3.5, but I could see a few conspicuous
>>>>> changes that will need to be written up in the user guides.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I have a chance, I'll create a page listing the changes that I
>>>>> find will need to be made to the guides, similar to the page I did for
>>>>> LO 3.4. Or someone else is welcome to do it. Release notes (useful for
>>>>> our purposes) are here:
>>>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5
>>>>>
>>>>> And an interesting infographic of the highlights is here:
>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/116590/lo35-infofinal.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> --Jean
>>>>>
>>>>
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