Or may be to create a separate document explaining those details about
databases back-ends?

Is just an idea...



El mar, 20-03-2012 a las 11:17 +0000, Tom Davies escribió:

> Hi :)
> I think Dan's plan is a good one and it's very ambitious.  it's good to have 
> input from new people but would it be possible to complete the 1st Base Guide 
> according to Dan's plan first.  After that would be the ideal time to discuss 
> restructuring it and perhaps add in an "Advanced" guide.  
> 
> >From discussions on the Users List it seems there is a gap in the market for 
> > an extremely simplistic and single purpose guide to help people create a 
> >contacts database and/or read a Thunderbird one.  I think linking to an 
> >Evolution/Outlook one would make it too complex.
> 
> I agree that the Base Guide that Dan has planned needs to avoid using the 
> embedded back-end.  When we first discussed the plan for the Base Guide most 
> of us didn't realise quite how appalling the embedded one is.  Using HSqlDb 
> as an external back-end after downloading the proper HSqlDb from their 
> website is a huge improvement but the embedded one seems to create too many 
> weird problems.  
> 
> I think we have to avoid to much "mission creep" or the guide will never get 
> done.  It might be best to to keep comparisons between the various different 
> back-ends to a reasonable minimum.  The work Dan has done seems to have 
> kick-started greater interest in work on Base generally.  A completed Guide 
> might draw more new people in.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 20/3/12, Mail Dump <mail.d...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> From: Mail Dump <mail.d...@comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Base guide structure (TOC)
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 20 March, 2012, 4:50
> 
> Mark,
> 
> This is another problem with using HSQLDB as an example that I overlooked.
> It is cumbersome. And to be honest I would use a MySQL DB on "localhost" if
> I wanted to create a database. Although PHPmyAdmin is better, Base is more
> visual and seems to work well. Of course anyone with DB experience will want
> to use their preferred DB.
> 
> And, there has been some discussion of losing much of the Java dependancies,
> especially since Sun and Oracle aren't in the picture any longer. So HSQLDB
> may someday be replaced with something like SQLite.
> 
> 
> Rick B
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stanton [mailto:m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk] 
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:18 AM
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base guide structure (TOC)
> 
> Particularly because it's the cause of so much trouble, I'd suggest it would
> be good not to focus on the "native" HSQLDB setup, though I agree it would
> be good to show it.
> 
> I'd suggest using all sorts of example backends.  A "Here's how you'd do x
> with the native HSQLDB and here's how you'd do it with" 
> a.n.other engine.  A couple "side-by-side" like that, and then just vary
> engines in the examples.
> 
> Mark Stanton
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> 
> 
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