Hello Martin I can only agree with your comments. It is just that I am concerned about what changes are involved to the user guides.
One thing I would like to know is how do I set my LibreOffice to using the Notebook Bar. I have switched on experimental features and opened View - User Interface on the Menu bar, but there is no Notebook Bar offered as an option. Yet, in LibreOffice > Preferences > LibreOffice > View > Icon Size the Notebook Bar is there as an option. Some help please. One thing that I think should be carried out is a spelling correction. Change all instances of Notebookbar to the correct spelling of Notebook Bar. Definitely does not look good when there are spelling errors in the user interface. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 21 May 2022, at 18:15, Martin Srebotnjak <mi...@filmsi.net> wrote: > > Hello, Peter, > > Regarding the Touch Bar: > - if I buy a computer with it (and spend more money), I expect it to bring > much joy to the use of my new laptop; > - if I am not satisfied with the Bar, I cannot remove it physically from the > computer, it stands there and lights up every once in a while, reminding me > how well I spent my money; > - I could use the 30-day money-back guarantee option, but that one might not > be available in my region (and requires some additional effort and > potentially even cost on my side). > > Regarding the LO UI-type change: > - I haven't spent any money on the new UI, it is already present in previous > versions, maybe I even played with it before (or have it enabled) and it is > already described in all of the documentation; > - if I do not like the new interface, I can switch back to the old one (OK, > some users with basic computer knowledge might have a problem with that, so > they need to be assisted in some way by a wizard or some UI tool); > - *if I am not mistaken* - this would only change for users without a user > profile, i.e. without previous versions of LO installed - all others would > get the UI they used with the old/previous version of LO? So if they are not > used to LO and come from MSO, the notebookbar might seem a more logical > choice for starting the software for the first time. > > Of course, there will be users fighting about which UI is better, but ... de > gustibus non disputandum est. > > Lp, m. > > V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 11:22 je oseba Peter Schofield <psaut...@gmail.com > <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: > Hello Martin > > I understand your thoughts and do agree that things must move on. However, > the idea of having a Notebookbar UI does worry me a little. > > Apple brought out a Touch Bar on some of the Macs, which was a physical > option not software, but software was involved. Apple are now rethinking the > Touch Bar, according to the news pundits, and it may be completely dropped > because it was not all that successful. Using this reasoning, I think that a > Notebookbar UI may also not be that successful. > > The Standard UI is great to use. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > >> On 21 May 2022, at 11:14, Martin Srebotnjak <mi...@filmsi.net >> <mailto:mi...@filmsi.net>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I do not know about the future, but the TDF board should inform the teams >> (esp. the documentation team) at least one version prior of such a change >> (if being planned for 7.5/(=8.0?), the LO teams should be informed by the >> time of the 7.4 release) - so everyone can prepare accordingly (maybe the >> Documentation team will then decide to not work on 7.4 guides but start >> rewriting the online help and the chapters of the guides for 7.5/8.0 with >> that change in mind - the default gui does not change the functionality >> itself, just its accessibility and requires many changed screenshots in >> guides, so a lot of work can be done even before 7.5a1 is available, even >> today). >> >> And another thing - there will be a lot of opposition to such a change - so >> maybe when released - there should be a guide/wizard at the first start of >> the suite to offer and explain/visualize the *two* (not 6 or 8) options - >> classic vs. notebookbar. But I can't even imagine the fuss this would create >> with help content and documentation, always mentioning the two possibilities >> when describing the access to toolbar icons/items ... >> >> Peter, I understand you - but I think it is inevitable that such a change >> would come. And many changes to documentation as well. >> >> Lp, m. >> >> V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 09:48 je oseba Peter Schofield <psaut...@gmail.com >> <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: >> I keep getting messages about "Bug 135501 - Change the default UI” which has >> raised a question for me and would like some opinion on this. >> >> Being one of the volunteers writing the user guides, would it mean that I >> have to completely update and change the user guides to suit a Notebookbar >> UI ??? >> >> I would like more information on this change to the UI so that I know what >> is going to happen. The comments in the bug report do not really help. >> >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> <mailto:documentation%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org> >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> <https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/> >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> <https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
