Hello,

Saya sebenarnya sdh janji utk tdk memberikan tanggapan dari pertanyaan 2 
yg ada, dan hanya memberikan tanggapan kepada member yg memang 
membutuhkan jawaban saya, dan dinyatakan dg ikutnya dlm kelompok donasi; 
akan tetapi topik ini cukup menarik utk dibahas dg sederhanaaa saja.

Begini:

Kalau boleh berterus terang, bahan2 additif makanan termasuk dlmnya sat 
pengawet yg oleh penyata posting disini(sdr/i memet16) disebut dg nama 
BTP, tdk menguntungkan konsumen.
Penambahan tersebut lebih banyak memberikan keuntungan bagi produsen, dg 
memberikan:
Penambahan rasa,
Membuat agar produk menjadi menarik dg zat pewarna,
Mempertahankan produk agar tahan terhadap mikroorganisme2 yg membuat 
busuk, berubah warna, berubah rasa, bahkan menajdi perubahan struktur, 
sehingga produk tersebut masih bisa di beli konsumen meski dlm jangka 
waktu yg cukup lama.

Sayangnya produk2 yg membuat perubahan tersebut diatas ternyata 
memberikan efek yg kurang baik bagi tubuh bahkan cukup banyak yg 
kemudian mengganggu syaraf. otak dan bahkan metabolism tubuh yg kemudian 
memberikan efek, mulai dari migraene, menceret, kekakuan sendi, sampai 
pada ruysaknya sayaraf dan otak.
Penggunaan produk2 tersebut dimaksud agar bahan2 kelihatan segar, 
kelihatan baik, dan tdk merubah rasa, walaupun ada banyak cara membuat 
produk2 menjadi tahan lama tetapi tdk dipilih karena berbagai alasan a/l:

Ongkos produksi yg menjadi mahal,
Berubahnya struktur, warna dan rasa,
Tdk bisa tahan lama juga meskipun proses sdh dilakukan sedemikian rupa.

Dlm tanggapannya yg dilakukan oleh MD, dibuatlah perbandingan antara 
kentang goreng biasa, burger biasa yg semuanya buatan rumah dg  produk 
yg dibuat oleh MD, dg perbandingan munculnya jamur pada produk ketika 2 
hari, 3 hari dan 5 hari.
Kelihatan sangat berbeda, bahwa produk tanpa pengawet (buatan rumah 
tentunya karena siapa yg mau meracuni diri sendiri?) dan produk MD yg 
berpengawet memang jelas terlihat terutama setelah 5 hari tanpa dipanaskan.
Pertanyaannya, ketika anda menggoreng kentang utk dimakan, atau membuat 
burger utk dimakan, apakah perlu anda menyimpan dlm lemari atau ditutup 
dimeja makan sampai 5 hari baru kemudian anda memakannya?? ataukah 
setelah anda membuatnya dan masih hangat2 anda langsung menyantapnya dg 
sedap??? hasil karya anda sendiri???

Disini terlihat bahwa penggunaan produk preservatives atau bahan 
pengawet tersebut memang dari maksudnya produsen utk membuat agar kalau 
tdk habis terjual, produk tersebut masih bisa dijual besok harinya lagi 
tanpa harus kuatir bahwa produk tersebut menjadi bulukan alias berjamur.

Saya ambil salah satu contoh yg sangat banyak digunakan pada produk 
makanan ringan; Tartarzin safe, ada MD POM nya, tetapi listed problem 
adalah sbb:

Tartrazine FD&C Yellow No.5 E 102 Europe
 membuat reaksi:
 Allergies
Thyroid tumors
Lymphocytic lymphomas
Chromosomal Damage
Trigger for asthma
Urticaria (hives)
Hyperactivity (Rowe & Rowe, Egger, 1985)

Produk2 lainnya yg juga dikatkan boleh dipergunakan disementara negara sbb:
E319    Tert-ButylHydroQuinone (TBHQ)   petroleum based; the HACSG* 
recommends to avoid it. May cause nausea, vomiting, delirium. A dose of 
5g is considered fatal. Typical products are fats, oils, margarine
E320    Butylated hydroxy-anisole (BHA)         petroleum derivative, retards 
spoilage due to oxidation; used in edible oils, chewing gum, fats, 
margarine, nuts, instant potato products, polyethylene food wraps; not 
permitted in infant foods, can provoke an allergic reaction in some 
people, may trigger hyperactivity and other intolerances; serious 
concerns over carcinogenicity and estrogenic effects, in large doses 
caused tumours in lab animals, banned in Japan in 1958, official 
committees of experts recommended that it be banned in the UK, however 
due to industry pressure it was not banned, McDonald's eliminated BHT 
from their US products by 1986, see also Butyl compounds
E321    Butylated hydroxy-toluene (BHT)         petroleum derivative; see E320

E210    Benzoic acid    also known as flowers of benzoin, phenlycarboxylic 
acid, carboxybenzene; added to alcoholic beverages, baked goods, 
cheeses, gum, condiments, frozen dairy, relishes, soft sweets, cordials 
and sugar substitutes; used in cosmetics, as an antiseptic in many cough 
medications and an antifungal in ointments; can cause asthma, especially 
in those dependant on steroid asthma medications, is also reputed to 
cause neurological disorders and to react with sulphur bisulphite (222), 
shown to provoke hyperactivity in children; obtained from Benzoin, a 
resin exuded by trees native to Asia
E211    Sodium benzoate         used as antiseptic, as a food preservative and 
to 
disguise taste, as of poor-quality food; orange soft drinks contain a 
high amount of it, upto 25mg per 250ml; also in milk and meat products, 
relishes and condiments, baked goods and lollies; used in many oral 
medications including Actifed, Phenergan and Tylenol; known to causes 
nettle rash and aggravate asthma
E212    Potassium benzoate      people with a history of allergies may show 
allergic reactions. for using see 210
E213    Calcium benzoate        see 212
E214    Ethyl p-hydroxybenzoate         avoid it, banned in some countries
E215    Sodium ethyl p-hydroxybenzoate  avoid it, banned in some countries
E216    Propyl p-hydroxybenzoate        possible contact allergen
E217    Sodium propyl p-hydroxybenzoate         avoid it, banned in some 
countries
E218    Methyl p-hydroxybenzoate        allergic reactions possible, mainly 
affecting the skin
E219    Sodium methyl p-hydroxybenzoate         avoid it, banned in some 
countries
E220    Sulphur dioxide         derived from coal tar; all sulphur drugs are 
toxic and restricted in use (in USA, FDA** prohibits their use on raw 
fruits and vegetables), produced by combustion of sulphur or gypsum; 
known to provoke asthma attacks and difficult to metabolise for those 
with impaired kidney function, also destroys vitamin B1; typical 
products are beer, soft drinks, dried fruit, juices, cordials, wine, 
vinegar, potato products

E420    Sorbitol        artificial sweetener and humectants; derived from 
glucose, either obtained from berries or synthesised; used in lollies, 
dried fruit, pastries, confectionary, low calorie foods, pharmaceutical 
syrups and ophthalmic preparations and is the seventh most widely used 
preservative in cosmetics; not permitted in foods for infants and young 
children, can cause gastric disturbance
E421    Mannitol        artificial sweetener and humectants; derived from 
seaweed or the manna ash tree; possible allergen, not permitted in 
infant foods due to its ability to cause diarrhoea and kidney 
dysfunction, also may cause nausea, vomiting; typical products are low 
calorie foods
E422    Glycerol        humectants and sweetener; oily colourless alcohol; 
derived by decomposition of natural fats with alkalis; usually as a 
by-product of soap making using animal fat or vegetable oil; can be 
obtained from petroleum products sometimes synthesised from propylene or 
fermented from sugar; used in flexible coatings on sausages and cheeses, 
also in crystallised and dried fruit, liqueurs and vodka. "Glycerine has 
been shown to protect against DNA damage induced by tumour promoters, 
ultraviolet lights and radiation, presumably via free radical 
scavenging"; large quantities can cause headaches, thirst, nausea and 
high blood sugar levels. Typical products are liquors, confectionary, 
dried fruit, low calorie foods

E620    Glutamic acid   flavour enhancer, salt substitute; amino acid 
present in many animal and vegetable proteins, derived commercially from 
bacteria; might cause similar problems as MSG(621), young children 
should avoid it
E621    Monosodium glutamate (MSG)      flavour enhancer derived from the 
fermentation of molasses, salt substitute; adverse effects appear in 
some asthmatic people, not permitted in foods for infants and young 
children; typical products are canned vegetables, canned tuna, 
dressings, many frozen foods
E622    Monopotassium glutamate         can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, 
abdominal cramps; typical products are low sodium salt substitutes

E951    Aspartame       artificial sweetener, too many adverse effects possible 
to list, some people are allergic to aspartame, migraine headaches a 
common reaction in these people
E952    Cyclamic acid   calcium & sodium cyclamate, artificial sweetener; 
known to cause migraines and other reactions, can be carcinogenic, 
caused damage ot rats testicles and mouse embriyos in tests, banned in 
the US and UK due its links with cancer
E954    Saccharines     calcium & sodium saccharin; artificial sweetener 
derived from toluene (a known carcinogen); banned in 1977 in the US, but 
reinstated subject to strict labelling starting: "Use of this product 
may be hazardous to your health, this product contains saccharin which 
has been determined to cause cancer in laboratory animals"

E967    Xylitol         humectant, found in raspberries, plums, lettuce and 
endives, though produced for commercial purposes from wood pulp; caused 
kidney stones and a diuretic effect on test rats: a waste of time and 
the lives of the rats, for the JEFCA in 1983 ruled the tests invalid in 
relation to humans, the symptoms caused by 'physiological disturbances' 
in the rats!, we can only imagine what conditions led to upset rats; 
used in low-joule foods and carbohydratemodified sweets, icecream and jams

E924    Potassium bromate       large quantities can cause nausea, vomiting, 
diarrhoea, pain. Typical products are flour products

Sorbic acid (E200) potassium sorbate (E202), calcium sorbate (E203)     
        Flavoured drinks, stuffing for ravioli, prepared fruit and vegetables, 
prepared chips, olives, melted cheese, pre-packed bread, emulsified 
sauces, syrups etc.     25mg max daily used / kg body weight
        - Sorbic acid can react with nitrites and produce mutagenic products. 
Sodium sorbate (E201), has been banned, its major product of 
transformation was mutagenic.
Sodium Benzoate (E211)  
        Sodas, light jams, cooked prawns, chewing gum, paté etc.        5       
- Is 
implicated in cases of allergy: erythemia, itches, uriticare, migraines.


(butylhydroxyanisol) (E320)  
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BHT (butylhydroxy-toluène) (E321)       Prevents rancidness     Ready made 
mixtures used for patisserie (fillings for biscuits...), powdered milk 
and milk substitutes for drinks machines, snacks, sauces, soups and 
flakes of dried potato, chewing gum.    0.5 (BHA)
------------------------------------------------------------------------

0.05
(BHT)   At a dose 100 times stronger,
-BHA provokes hypertrophy of the liver in monkeys, of the thyroid in 
pigs, and could be an immuno-suppressor.
-BHT causes hypertrophies of the thyroid or the liver according to 
species, haemorrhages due to lowering the absorption of vitamin K.
-BHA and BHT can provoke skin and respiratory problems in workers in the 
industry and in catering.


Sekarang pertanyaanya, apakah perlu memakan produk2 tersebut yg oleh 
produser, hanya berpedoman kepada daily used safe amount, atau ijin 
badan POM, FDA dll seperti disebutkan? pada hal manusia adalah unik dan 
berbeda satu sama lainnya?
Apakah data diatas merupakan akal2an saja?

Kenapa tdk menggunakan metoda2 yg lainnya seperti a/l:

Refrigeration
Low temperature to retard growth

Freezing 
Low temperature and reduction of water activity to prevent growth

Drying, curing and conserving  
Reduction in water activity sufficient to delay or prevent growth

Vacuum and oxygen free modified atmosphere packaging
Low oxygen tension inhibits strict aerobes and delay growth of 
facultative anaerobes

Carbon dioxide enriched modified atmosphere packaging
Specific inhibition of some micro-organisms by carbon dioxide

Food irradiation (Radurization, radicidation and radappertization)
Delivery of ionising radiation

Sugar preservation
Cooking in high sucrose concentration creating too high osmotic pressure 
for most microbial survival.

Pulsed electric field processing (PEF treatment)
Short bursts of electricity for microbial inactivation

Application of high hydrostatic pressure (Pascalization)
Pressure-inactivation of vegetative bacteria, yeasts and moulds

Addition of weak acids
Reduction of the intracellular pH of micro-organisms

Lactic fermentation Reduction of pH value in situ by microbial action 
and sometimes additional inhibition by the lactic and acetic acids 
formed and by other microbial products. (e.g. ethanol, bacteriocins)

Emulsification
Compartmentalisation and  nutrient limitation within the aqueous 
droplets in water-in-oil emulsion foods

Pasteurization and appertization
Delivery of heat sufficient to inactivate target micro-organisms to the 
desired extent

Kenapa harus menggunakan metoda penambahan preservatives:

Addition of preservatives such as nitrite or sulphite ions Inhibition of 
specific groups of micro-organisms

Ethanol preservation
Steeping or cooking in Ethanol produces toxic inhibition of microbes. 
Can be combined with sugar preservation

Atau kenapa tdk menggunakan produk2 natural kenapa memelihara tubuh dg 
produk2 yg sdh diketahui akan membuat efek2 negatif bagi tubuh???

Jadi apakah menjaga nutrisi makanan menjadi alasan menambahkan bahan2 
pengawet yg kemudian memberikan efek yg akirnya membuat sang nutrisi tdk 
berguna, karena tubuh perlu menanggulangi efek yg ditimbulkan, ataukah 
menjauhi produk2 yg menggunakan bahan2 tersebut dan menikmati kandungan 
nutrisi secara natural dan hidup dlm kedaan tanpa gangguan bahan2 kimia 
tersebut???

Semua terserah anda, apakah be smart utk menggunakan produk2 nartural 
dan dijauhkan dari sakit kepala (efek paling ringan), atau menggunakan 
produk2 berbahan pengawet tersebut dan kemudian menggunakan produk kimia 
smart yg lainnya utk menaggulangi akibat efek bahan pengawet sementara 
antara produk smart dan bahan pengawet, efek keduanya di tumpukan dlm 
badan yg kemudian giat bereaksi sedangkan anda tdk perduli karena 
termakan iklan.

Demikian, semoga bermanfaat,
Wassallam,


mamet16 wrote:

>Bahan pengawet yang terdapat pada makanan dan minuman kemasan 
>kerapkali dituding sebagai zat berbahaya bagi kesehatan. Padahal, 
>sebagai salah satu jenis bahan tambahan pangan (BTP), bahan pengawet 
>diperlukan untuk mempengaruhi sifat atau bentuk pangan, baik yang 
>memiliki atau tidak memiliki nilai gizi. Selain pengawet, jenis BTP 
>diantaranya adalah pewarna, perasa, dan pengemulsi.
>
>Pada makanan dan minuman, bahan pengawet yang paling banyak 
>digunakan dan telah disetujui oleh Badan Pengawas Obat dan Makanan 
>(BPOM) dan badan-badan otoritas internasional dalam hal keamanan 
>pangan seperti FDA, WHO, FAO, EU, CODEX adalah Natrium Benzoat dan 
>Kalium Sorbat. Studi dari World Health Organization (WHO) 
>menyebutkan bahwa Natrium Benzoat adalah bahan pengawet yang sangat 
>cocok untuk jus buah dan minuman ringan. Sedangkan Kalium Sorbat 
>banyak digunakan pada kue, margarin, mentega, minuman soda, minuman 
>ringan, pasta gigi, yoghurt, susu, dan lainnya. Kedua BTP tersebut 
>telah melalui pengujian yang dibuktikan aman untuk kesehatan dan 
>telah digunakan secara luas dalam berbagai produk makanan dan 
>minuman di Indonesia maupun di seluruh dunia selama lebih dari 80 
>tahun.
>
>Sodium Benzoat secara alami terdapat pada apel, cengkih, dan kayu 
>manis, sedangkan Kalium Sorbat secara alami terdapat pada pohon 
>Sorbus Americana. Penggunaan Natrium Benzoat dan Kalium Sorbat 
>sebagai pengawet dikarenakan sifat bahan tersebut sebagai bahan 
>antibakteria untuk mencegah pertumbuhan mikroorganisme pada makanan 
>dan minuman, selain untuk menghindarkan oksidasi dan menjaga nutrisi 
>makanan. 
>
>Di negara beriklim tropis seperti Indonesia, penggunaan bahan 
>tambahan pangan  sangat diperlukan untuk mencegah tumbuhnya 
>mikroorganisme yang dapat merugikan kesehatan. Sementara itu, 
>sebagian masyarakat Indonesia karena keterbatasan informasi yang 
>didapatkannya, masih menganggap zat kimia sebagai zat yang 
>berbahaya. Padahal banyak senyawa kimia yang aman digunakan dengan 
>batas-batas tertentu, seperti garam, gula pasir, bumbu masak, dan 
>lain sebagainya.
>
>Untuk menjamin keamanan produk makanan dan minuman yang beredar di 
>Indonesia, baik yang diproduksi di dalam maupun dari luar negeri, 
>BPOM mengharuskan produsen untuk terlebih dahulu melalui proses uji 
>coba ekstensif oleh BPOM Indonesia sebelum dipasarkan untuk konsumsi 
>oleh masyarakat luas. Apabila produk tersebut dinyatakan lulus uji 
>coba, maka keamanan produk tersebut  untuk dikonsumsi tidak perlu 
>diragukan lagi.***
>  
>

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