IMHO We need to move forward to using HTML5 and responsive design for a
future major release.
We simply can't ignore this technology anymore.

A templating framework would have greatly simplified this refactoring.
Unfortunately we don't really have such a tool.
We should stop thinking only in raw, bit-crunching performance and also
think about readability, versatility, and ease-of-development when
evaluating if templating fits our use case.

Unfortunately, an idea and even a POC is not enough in a small community
like ours to generate enough momentum to bring contributors into motion.
You need to code the feature or GTFO (sorry for the strong language).

I also vote for the removal of unmaintained bits and integrating menu
system in themes. Any volunteers to do the heavy lifting?

My 2 and a half cents.

2015-01-14 13:46 GMT+01:00 [Kreiz IT]Cédric GROSS <[email protected]>:

> Thank you Philip J
>
>
>
> And about “excuse” :
> http://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php/Language_and_development_rules#External_templating_framework_.3F
>
>
>
> Cedric
>
>
>
> *De :* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *De la part de*
> Philip Lehmann-Böhm
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 14 janvier 2015 13:38
>
> *À :* [email protected]
> *Objet :* Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Auguria and Eldy menu
>
>
>
> I think moving to Twig would be utterly important. There is simply no
> excuse not to use a templating system IMHO and Twig is really great.
>
> Am 14.01.15 um 13:35 schrieb [Kreiz IT]Cédric GROSS:
>
> Hello, My 2 cents also :
>
>
>
> Adopt a template manager so we could totally separate business code and
> template. This should also permit development of new one easily.
>
>
>
> Yes. I know Eldy is totally against this. But we could really get great
> benefit adopting a tool like this against a really small lost of speed.
> (Twig use cached file, not sure we lost speed)
>
>
>
> Anyway, sometime I dream about a Dolibarr v4 based on that ;)
>
>
>
> Cedric
>
>
>
> *De :* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]>] *De **la part de*
> [email protected]
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 14 janvier 2015 12:46
> *À :* 'Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding'
> *Objet :* Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Auguria and Eldy menu
>
>
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> remove menu lib and define menu on modules definition file
>
>
>
>
>
> *De :* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]>] *De la part de*
> Florian HENRY
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 14 janvier 2015 12:13
> *À :* [email protected]
> *Objet :* Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Auguria and Eldy menu
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> My point of view, remove auguria theme and affilate files, it is no more
> maintened.
> Theme I often see on my customer deployment are Amarok, Eldy and Cameleo
> (this one to my point of view ugly, but give hight contrast on table lines).
> As we see problem with Oblyon theme, theme and menu should be linked, when
> change theme => menu manager should be updated as well.
>
> Regards.
>
> Florian Henry
>
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> Le 14/01/2015 12:01, Doursenaud, Raphaël a écrit :
>
> Good question!
>
>
>
> Can't spot many differences.
>
> Looking at the code, I see that eldy one is maintained  and more up to
> date.
>
> I suspect the auguria one is (was?) tailored to fit the auguria theme.
>
>
>
> Don't know more. Anyone?
>
>
>
> 2015-01-13 20:01 GMT+01:00 Marcos García <[email protected]>:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Just a quick question... Which is the difference between Auguria menu
> handler and Eldy menu handler?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> *Marcos García*
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