On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Hubert Andriolo <[email protected]> wrote:

> Open a page on Dolibarr org, fr, etc... with a "whatever user" of Github
> and you will transform Github in a forum with trollers (like me) that
> complain on whatever problem they have :) example : "my wireless mouse has
> no battery, can I use a wired one with Dolibarr ?"
>
> In fact, my idea was to integrate this thing into a dolibarr itself, to
popup something when you get an error or exception, instead of just showing
the error on the screen. Send it automatically to the github issues or a
bugs mailing list.

Rgds
Saxa


> Yes, Dolibarr should be simple for users, but those users that host
> Dolibarr on their computers, should know a bit of Dolibarr...
> or they should take a host... or post on the forum and cross fingers.
> When i find something free, i try to understand it. When it's a paid one,
> i expect it to do as much possible out of the box.
>
> Doliforge was manageable and quite organised because it had a few
> reporters (like github will have),
> but non friendly because it was "closed circle".
> in Github it's public, i can check code and issues, pull request, etc...
> with no account.
> And an enormous majoirty of "silent devs" are on github, checking code,
> issues, progress of the project.
>
> I'm not a dev, but I'm happy to try to read code and post on github when i
> see a line which could be wrong.
>
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> 2015-03-26 18:54 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]>:
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:26:52 +0100
>> From: "Charles Benke" <[email protected]>
>> To: "'Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding'"
>>         <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] New rule to report bug and task
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>> Hello,,
>>
>> I think we need to simplify the bug report the more as possible and use
>> github is not simple for simple users
>>
>> Please consider that Dolibarr users are not all developer with a github
>> account
>>
>> A good way for reporting bug is a simple form with  a feature of attached
>> picture on the Dolibarr main website (org, fr, ?)
>>
>> It?s not the job of an user to make the job of a developper
>>
>>
>>
>> Bien cordialement,
>>
>> Charles-Fran?ois BENKE
>>
>>
>>
>> De : [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] De la part de
>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
>> Envoy? : jeudi 26 mars 2015 16:08
>> ? : ML Dolibarr dev
>> Objet : [Dolibarr-dev] New rule to report bug and task
>>
>>
>>
>> Few days ago, we decided to abandon our current bug and request tracker
>> to follow Dolibarr bugs and features requests.
>>
>>
>>
>> You must use now the Issue tracker of Github.
>>
>> You will find here: https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr  (click on link
>> "Issue" on left of page).
>>
>>
>>
>> Also don't forget to set tags on your report to qualify your report.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> WHY A NEW TRACKING SYSTEM ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Using the old tracker was just a pain for several reasons :
>>
>>
>>
>> * When closing a bug, we had to close the bug manualy into the bug
>> tracker. It wasn't done or when done, it was a lot of waste ot time. This
>> is past, now closing a bug into github with "Closed #xxx" into the
>> description of the change automatically close the bug.
>>
>>
>>
>> * The id of bug reported into the comment of github was an id into
>> another system. So switching to code from ticket or to ticket description
>> from code was just awful. Now, one click is enough.
>>
>>
>>
>> * The old tracker was not public and not visible. You had to create an
>> account making the bug and feature tracker difficult to use for "quick
>> report".
>>
>>
>>
>> * Our old tracker had a very bad visibility. I hope this will change.
>>
>>
>>
>> * Our old tracker was maintained by the Dolibarr foundation. This need a
>> lot of time spent by the core team. Removing completely this tasks should
>> provide more free time us.
>>
>>
>>
>> * Integration with IDE tools like eclipse was difficult. You may find
>> plugins more easily with github.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> WHAT ABOUT OLD TICKETS:
>>
>>
>>
>> * That is the negative point. But i think we must accept this to
>> progress: Old tickets still opened, like closed one will just be forgotten.
>> We will enter them back into new GitHub tracker day by day.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Enjoy our new tracking system. Who wil be the first to enter one issue ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Laurent Destailleur (aka eldy)
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:49:20 -0300
>> From: Sasa Ostrouska <[email protected]>
>> To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding"
>>         <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] New rule to report bug and task
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>> Simply great decision !
>> Rgds
>> Saxa
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Few days ago, we decided to abandon our current bug and request tracker
>> to
>> > follow Dolibarr bugs and features requests.
>> >
>> > You must use now the Issue tracker of Github.
>> > You will find here: https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr  (click on
>> link
>> > "Issue" on left of page).
>> >
>> > Also don't forget to set tags on your report to qualify your report.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > WHY A NEW TRACKING SYSTEM ?
>> >
>> > Using the old tracker was just a pain for several reasons :
>> >
>> > * When closing a bug, we had to close the bug manualy into the bug
>> > tracker. It wasn't done or when done, it was a lot of waste ot time.
>> This
>> > is past, now closing a bug into github with "Closed #xxx" into the
>> > description of the change automatically close the bug.
>> >
>> > * The id of bug reported into the comment of github was an id into
>> another
>> > system. So switching to code from ticket or to ticket description from
>> code
>> > was just awful. Now, one click is enough.
>> >
>> > * The old tracker was not public and not visible. You had to create an
>> > account making the bug and feature tracker difficult to use for "quick
>> > report".
>> >
>> > * Our old tracker had a very bad visibility. I hope this will change.
>> >
>> > * Our old tracker was maintained by the Dolibarr foundation. This need a
>> > lot of time spent by the core team. Removing completely this tasks
>> should
>> > provide more free time us.
>> >
>> > * Integration with IDE tools like eclipse was difficult. You may find
>> > plugins more easily with github.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > WHAT ABOUT OLD TICKETS:
>> >
>> > * That is the negative point. But i think we must accept this to
>> progress:
>> > Old tickets still opened, like closed one will just be forgotten. We
>> will
>> > enter them back into new GitHub tracker day by day.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Enjoy our new tracking system. Who wil be the first to enter one issue ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Laurent Destailleur (aka eldy)
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:54:00 -0300
>> From: Sasa Ostrouska <[email protected]>
>> To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding"
>>         <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] New rule to report bug and task
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>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Charles Benke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,,
>> >
>> > I think we need to simplify the bug report the more as possible and use
>> > github is not simple for simple users
>> >
>> > Please consider that Dolibarr users are not all developer with a github
>> > account
>> >
>> > A good way for reporting bug is a simple form with  a feature of
>> attached
>> > picture on the Dolibarr main website (org, fr, ?)
>> >
>> > It?s not the job of an user to make the job of a developper
>> >
>> >
>> I think this can be solved by makeing available a page in Dolibarr itself.
>> Which would have the ability to post directly to github as a dolibarr or
>> whatever user.
>> Sometimes users which do not have development skills can report something
>> as a bug but in reality its just a missing functionality or they do not
>> know how to do it.
>>
>> Rgds
>> Saxa
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Bien cordialement,
>> >
>> > Charles-Fran?ois BENKE
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *De :* [email protected] [mailto:
>> > [email protected]] *De la part de*
>> > Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
>> > *Envoy? :* jeudi 26 mars 2015 16:08
>> > *? :* ML Dolibarr dev
>> > *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] New rule to report bug and task
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Few days ago, we decided to abandon our current bug and request tracker
>> to
>> > follow Dolibarr bugs and features requests.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > You must use now the Issue tracker of Github.
>> >
>> > You will find here: https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr  (click on
>> link
>> > "Issue" on left of page).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Also don't forget to set tags on your report to qualify your report.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > WHY A NEW TRACKING SYSTEM ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Using the old tracker was just a pain for several reasons :
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > * When closing a bug, we had to close the bug manualy into the bug
>> > tracker. It wasn't done or when done, it was a lot of waste ot time.
>> This
>> > is past, now closing a bug into github with "Closed #xxx" into the
>> > description of the change automatically close the bug.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > * The id of bug reported into the comment of github was an id into
>> another
>> > system. So switching to code from ticket or to ticket description from
>> code
>> > was just awful. Now, one click is enough.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > * The old tracker was not public and not visible. You had to create an
>> > account making the bug and feature tracker difficult to use for "quick
>> > report".
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > * Our old tracker had a very bad visibility. I hope this will change.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > * Our old tracker was maintained by the Dolibarr foundation. This need a
>> > lot of time spent by the core team. Removing completely this tasks
>> should
>> > provide more free time us.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > * Integration with IDE tools like eclipse was difficult. You may find
>> > plugins more easily with github.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > WHAT ABOUT OLD TICKETS:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > * That is the negative point. But i think we must accept this to
>> progress:
>> > Old tickets still opened, like closed one will just be forgotten. We
>> will
>> > enter them back into new GitHub tracker day by day.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Enjoy our new tracking system. Who wil be the first to enter one issue ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Laurent Destailleur (aka eldy)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dolibarr-dev mailing list
>> > [email protected]
>> > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev
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