Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 3:10:54 PM, you wrote:
TW> Message received 2005-09-21 from 'Zeljko Dimic': >> Hi Brian, >> >> there is no way for Tucows to find authoritative expiration date of domain >> that is registered through another registrar. Registry does not supply this >> information, or any other for domains not in our portfolio. TW> This is simply not true. Well Tim, it *is* true. No matter how much you want to have OpenSRS pass you the data the fact is, the Registry (*the* authoritative source for exp dates) will not give it to a Registrar if the domain is not owned by the requesting Registrar (at least for com|net). The notion of regexes or simple programming techniques doesn't even come into play when you're faced with such a situation because you can't trust the output of another Registrar. I'm with you -- I wish it were different so I could easily handle transfers on a programmatic level -- But it is not up to Tucows or me or you.:( Regards, -tom TW> You can get the authoritative expiration date for SOME domains outside TW> your profile. What you are trying to say is that you cannot implement an TW> authoritative expiration date in the generic case. TW> So, has tucows complained to icann about this problem and had them to fix TW> the problem at the source? TW> If you have, and they said 'no', good on you, but let's go try again! >> It is possible to query other registrars' whois and collect information, but >> there are few problems with this approach. >> - whois run by other registrar in general is not always reliable and >> accessible to us >> - whois format may differs significantly (though usually this could be >> solved) >> - reported expiration date on some registrars' whois may not always be up >> to date. Sometimes it depends on the status of one's account with that >> particular registrar (unpaid invoice would hold back date etc...) Some >> registrars would use expiration date as in 'paid-until' date. For example, >> on a multiyear registration, such registrar would register domain for one >> year only, and renew it with registry annually while showing paid until date >> in the expiration field. This creates discrepancy btw. registrar and >> registry expiration dates, and if you transferred early, you may loose >> remainder of the years(registry date is authoritative), though you paid for >> it. So in general, we found this data unreliable enough... TW> Certain registrars appear to be explicitly trying to make it difficult to TW> extract the expiry date. We had to solve this problem years ago. TW> This is pretty core functionality for doing transfers. TW> It might be a smart thing for tucows to do for their resellers, even if it TW> has to be documented as being unreliable. It is a simple matter of whois TW> and a bunch of regexes. Then again, it is a simple matter of whois and a TW> bunch of regexes, so any reseller with software developers at their side TW> can implement it themselves. >> >> Regards, >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Zeljko Dimic >> Technical Product Manager >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Tucows Inc. >> 96 Mowat Avenue >> Toronto, ON, M6K 3M1 >> Canada >> tel: 416.535.0123 x 1256 >> fax: 416.531.5584 >> ------------------------------------ >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doctor PC - >> > Brian O'Donnell >> > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 6:51 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [domains-gen] expiry date of domain before transfer >> > >> > >> > Hello >> > >> > Does the API have a way to get the current expiry date of a domain before >> > we transfer (or attempt a transfer) to Tucows? >> > >> > This would eliminate our last bit of manual labour with regard to domain >> > transfers, and help us streamline our invoicing etc. >> > >> > If it doesn't exist, I'd like to add it to the wishlist. If it does, could >> > somebody point me to it? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Brian O'Donnell >> > Doctor PC >> > www.doctorpc.ca >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > domains-gen mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> domains-gen mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen >> TW> _______________________________________________ TW> domains-gen mailing list TW> [email protected] TW> http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen _______________________________________________ domains-gen mailing list [email protected] http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen
