On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Simon Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 16 October 2008 19:58:58 Nicholas Accad wrote:
>>
>> I noticed something recently, due to me moving to a work environment
>> where everything is Microsoft based.
>
> Welcome to hell.

And I'm not even the sysadmin anymore, I though hell was reserved for
those, but nooooo...

>
>> To be exact, my own domain, has one alias that points to
>> ghs.google.com, at home using OpenDNS it resolves fine, from several
>> dedicated Linux boxes it also works OK, but on two occasions, two
>> completely different networks, that CNAME will not resolve if the
>> internal nameserver is Windows.
>
> "Out of crystal balls" error. Which record? What version of Microsoft DNS,
> what platform.
>

Anything with a chained CNAME
try docs.accad.org for example, it resolves fine until I use M$ as a resolver.
I have no idea what version of the DNS is, my knowledge of Windows
Server is limited, I am a Linux/FreeBSD guy really.
It is either 2000 or 2003, with AD.
I tried this on 3 laptops, one running XP, the other running OSX 10.4,
and now on OpenSuSE 11, so it is not the client side.

>> So I am wondering, where is the problem exactly? And what can be done
>> - if anything - to solve it.
>
> Most likely the Microsoft network is using WINS, or some other curious name
> resolution scheme and picking up some internal reference.
>
> Are the two networks with the issue completely independent? Or could they have
> shared WINS data in the past?

My personal domain is giving the company LAN issues? :) I'm good, but
not that good.
The two LANs I am talking about are completely isolated, different
companies in fact, I doubt they even know of each other, the only
connection is that I work at one and my wife works at the other. The
only similarity AFAIK is they are both Windows networks.

The curious thing - I test this on my Linux laptop - is that 'host'
barfs, but I specifically tell it to look for CNAMEs, it works, it
just does not follow the CNAME to resolve to the A record, and after I
tell it to look for CNAME, then it resolves fine.

# host docs.accad.org
Host docs.accad.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
# host -t CNAME docs.accad.org
docs.accad.org is an alias for ghs.google.com.
#host docs.accad.org
docs.accad.org is an alias for ghs.google.com.
ghs.google.com is an alias for ghs.l.google.com.
ghs.l.google.com has address 74.125.47.121

Now here is something worthy of a big WTF, the first try fails, the
second one works AFTER I request a CNAME
it seems like M$DNS requests ONLY the A record, and if it fails, it
does not try to look for other record types.

So maybe something is really screwed up with the cache?
I notice that if I look up www.microsoft.com, it always works, which
makes sense since 500 computers running Windows will probably make
something like 1000 requests per minute for that domain.

Oh well, I thought I'd pick some of your brains, just to make sure I'm
not going crazy (debatable since I'm a sysadmin).

Thank you everyone.
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