Dear list,
Thanks alot for all of you who gave me suggestions on my questions. I
appreciate it!
>Mark-san,
Thank you for your detailed explanation.
>A message sent to mail...@example.co.jp which via the alias above is
>posted to the 'mailman' list by piping to the command
>
> /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
I'm sorry that I still have one more thing to ask. Even if the mail(sent
to mailman@ via
that alias) is because of senddigests, what exaclty does it mean? I
mean that what does
'post' commnad do(what is gonna happen if the 'post mailman' executed)?
>The mailing list is used. The address is the source of some messages and
>is also on the listinfo overview page in the message
>
>If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact
>mail...@example.co.jp.
>
>and on the admin overview page in the message
>
>(Send questions and comments to mail...@example.co.jp.)
As for the above, do you mean that the admin is mailman user which
specified as
a 'owner' option?
On the other hand, I have joined mailman-us...@python.org as you led me
know.
Best Regards,
Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 11:59 AM, Masaharu Kawada wrote:
One of my customer gets the following log message into /var/log/maillog
at around 12:00 every day.
---</var/log/maillog>---
12:00:04 relay postfix/pickup[6279]: 244811C805C: uid=41 from=<mailman>
12:00:04 relay postfix/cleanup[21529]: 244811C805C:
message-id=<20100215030004.244811c8...@example.co.jp>
12:00:04 relay postfix/qmgr[20068]: 244811C805C:
from=<mail...@example.co.jp>, size=1728, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
12:00:04 relay postfix/local[21232]: 244811C805C:
to=<mail...@example.co.jp>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=local, delay=0.17,
delays=0.05/0/0/0.12, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman)
----
This question should have been posted to mailman-us...@python.org, but
since I am the Mailman developer that probably would have answered it
there, I'll try to answer here.
The above Postfix log entries are from a normal message to a mailman
list (such as this one). It is a message that was sent to
mail...@example.co.jp from mail...@example.co.jp.
Since it occurs daily at noon, the default time for sending digests, I
think it is related to that.
This message seems that it delivers a command
'/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post'
to execute against the mailman mailing list, however, the customer never
use mailman mailing list on their system. One thing that I doubt is that
a cronjob in /etc/cron.d/mailman does something relevant of this because
the post time of the messages is always reight after the following work.
---</etc/cron.d/mailman>---
0 12 * * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests
or
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * mailman
/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news
---
It is almost certainly not gate_news. I'm sure it is senddigests.
Every Mailman 2.1.x installation has a site list which is normally named
'mailman'.
I'm afraid that I don't have /etc/mailman/aliases file of cutomer's,
but by default(in my test env), it should looks like below.
</etc/mailman/aliease>
# STANZA START: mailman
# CREATED: Mon Jan 25 16:48:18 2010
mailman: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
mailman-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
mailman-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
mailman-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
mailman-join: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
mailman-leave: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
mailman-owner: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
mailman-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
mailman-subscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman"
# STANZA END: mailman
Yes, it would be that.
My questions are as follows.
1.What exactly is the cause the message in /var/log/maillog?
A message sent to mail...@example.co.jp which via the alias above is
posted to the 'mailman' list by piping to the command
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
2.Why does the messages send to mailman(mail...@example.co.jp) user
even though that mailing list never be used?
The mailing list is used. The address is the source of some messages and
is also on the listinfo overview page in the message
If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact
mail...@example.co.jp.
and on the admin overview page in the message
(Send questions and comments to mail...@example.co.jp.)
What exactly is happening is not clear. My first guess is that
mail...@example.co.jp is a member of the mail...@example.co.jp list, and
every day, a digest is sent to that member and posted back to the list
ensuring there will be another digest the next day, but there is
protection in Mailman against this kind of loop, so that probably isn't it.
The bottom line is there is a mail...@example.co.jp list, and someone
needs to examine its membership and archives and also Mailman's logs on
that machine to figure this out.
If you need to follow up, please join mailman-us...@python.org
<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> and follow up there.
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Masaharu Kawada
Associate Technical Support Engineer
Red Hat K K
Ebisu Neonato 5F
1-18 Ebisu 4-chome, Shibuya-ku
Tokyo 150-0013, Japan
Direct: +81-3-5798-8482
