Am 08.11.2012 00:24, schrieb Massimiliano Cianelli: > Hi, > > Yes w/o prefix work as expected, try to add a prefix like courier does (eg. > Inbox.) It will not work as expected.
I see you point, but as i have seen other mail clients have problems with prefix namespace in the past, i am using the most unproblematic setup, there will never be an universal best config for all imap software existing, dont try to find it > > Due I'm upgrading an old installed server, I've to keep everything as much > transparent I can... it includes IMAP folder and subscription. look at dovecot migration sites for examples, but it may stay a problem ever ,that some imap clients with broken stuff do not behave proper after migration again this should be fixed on the client side > > Looking at that I've encountered that issue, and analyzed for fix it (thank > you open source), not everyone will want to use/use k9.. but you can be 100% > sure the stock client is there. thats right, but if its failing with some servers, it has to be fixed at the "source of evil" first *g, anyway i dont see the point dovecot related, but your info is usefull anyway > > Due that Google act like BlackBerry, Microsoft,etc.. (hovewer they will not > fix it soon, or really respect the rfc), it's much simple add Namespace on > prelogin banner then wait or have to tell someone to install another client > for that mailbox. > > I didn't know the history, but looking at change log seems that idle as been > put back to prelogin client for some kind of compatibility with their service. > > Anyway, the most important reason that got me to subscribe the mailing list > for write those emails, is share with the community that problem and provide > a solution.. for someone in the future that have the same problem and will > search on internet for a solution (like I've does.. before analyze it on my > own). > > If the workaround will be added to the wiki or will be put in the source.. > the important thing is that there is a solution simple and fast (two.. the > source modify, and the configuration file) and someone can find it.. > > (Sarcastic) And if the mayans were right we can't wait for google to fix it :p Dovecot has mass of config parameter, try find out what set best to workaround your problem, then post it to the wiki, it will be welcomed > > Best Regards > Sent from Galaxy Nexus > > Robert Schetterer <r...@sys4.de> ha scritto: > >> Am 07.11.2012 08:13, schrieb Massimiliano Cianelli: >>> Hello, >>> >>> My phone: >>> Android ics 4.1.2 on galaxy nexus. >>> And yes, stock mean the default client that come with the os in IMAP mode. >>> >>> I already know about that configuration parameter, but it will display two >>> time namespace in postlogin capabilities, and so I like much more to adjust >>> the source code to fix the issue. >>> >>> Yes there is k9 but I didn't like it too much, I prefer the stock client >>> and is much important to keep compatibility with stock client then >>> user-installed client. >>> >>> About the issue on Google code, there is thr issue on google code... but >>> Google is a lot slow in fixing those things. >>> http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1811 >>> >>> In a few hour I'll update the issue noticing where is hidden the problem. >>> >>> Regards >>> Sent from Galaxy Nexus >> >> Hi , i shortly tested this with android sdk jelly bean 4.1.1 and "my >> setup" dovecot 2.1.10 with included orginal android mail app in imap mode, >> ,leaving IMAP prefix blank, everything works as expected, no double >> shown inbox, namespace problems etc >> so you might have to fit your namespace setup. >> Also you might follow allready given advice from here. >> >> Anyway , i understand you using "stock client" >> but you have to understand that the producers of mail clients >> optimize their stuff fitting best in their own server structure >> making money with it, therefor their motivation coding better imap code >> is not very high, same case is for outlook and microsoft >> however, i would say, fixing bugs is on the google site here, looks like >> there is patch >> at >> http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1811 >> and the issue seems long known >> >> i dont see any hard relation to dovecot in this case >> meanwhile using k9mail seems the best way to workaround >> there are lots of other bugs around android versions >> over the years i dont expect google to fix them >> >> >>> >>> Robert Schetterer <r...@sys4.de> ha scritto: >>> >>>> Am 06.11.2012 07:08, schrieb Ben Morrow: >>>>> At 6AM +0100 on 6/11/12 you (Massimiliano Cianelli) wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> My setup: >>>>>> Dovecot 2 latest, installed to replace courrier IMAP, and off course >>>>>> configured with the dot separator and all folder under INBOX.*. >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem: >>>>>> My phone was driving me mad during the test, due that it will only >>>>>> recognize Inbox. >>>>>> >>>>>> How found the solution: >>>>>> I've started sniffing IMAP traffic on my server and ended up with one >>>>>> difference: >>>>>> On courier it ask for namespace, on dovecot it won't. >>>>>> >>>>>> I gives a better look, and noticed that courier show namespace >>>>>> capability on prelogin banner, adding it too solved the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reason: >>>>>> Android ICS stock client seems do not honor the capability gived after >>>>>> the login. >>>>> >>>>> See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Upgrading/2.0?highlight=%28capability%29 ; >>>>> you need to set imap_capability and/or get your client fixed. >>>>> >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, first ,what is the exact meaning of >>>> >>>> "Android ICS stock client" >>>> >>>> do you mean default included email client in standard android in imap >>>> mode, when yes, which version of Android , i like to test my own >>>> however is there changelog/code etc at google for this behave? >>>> >>>> conf example >>>> >>>> # Override the IMAP CAPABILITY response. If the value begins with '+', >>>> # add the given capabilities on top of the defaults (e.g. +XFOO XBAR). >>>> #imap_capability = >>>> >>>> setting stuff here might be complex , or lead to trouble with other >>>> clients, if setting this might fix problems ,with clients it should be >>>> advised in the wiki/example-conf and/or Timo >>>> >>>> or the other way ,for massive used clients there should be >>>> a seperate workaround section in the conf >>>> >>>> But fixing behave clients should be prime option anyway >>>> >>>> Meanwhile use K9mail in Android as best free option in imap mode servers >>>> >>>> Best Regards >>>> MfG Robert Schetterer >>>> >>>> -- >>>> [*] sys4 AG >>>> >>>> http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 >>>> Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München >>>> >>>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 >>>> Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer >>>> Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich >> >> >> >> Best Regards >> MfG Robert Schetterer >> >> -- >> [*] sys4 AG >> >> http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 >> Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München >> >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 >> Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer >> Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
