Am 08.09.2013 18:15, schrieb Reindl Harald: > > Am 08.09.2013 18:04, schrieb Thomas Koch: >> I've already asked this here: >> http://serverfault.com/questions/533940/best-practice-to-have-sent-mail- >> folder-on-dovecot-imap-server
you may use special-use RFC 6154 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6154 have a look http://www.imapwiki.org/ImapRFCList http://www.imapwiki.org/SpecialUse also only german http://sys4.de/de/blog/2013/03/25/outlook-2013-special-use-mit-dovecot/ some more info http://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2011-December/062327.html so you might be happy with Outlook 2013, K9 Mail new Horde webmail versions, for thunderbird http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Plugins/Autocreate might help too dont know the status of kmail older blog https://blog.flameeyes.eu/2013/03/i-ll-stick-with-thunderbird-still .. Third problem — KMail does not implement the Special Folder extension defined in RFC 6154 ... >> >> when I add a mail account to KMail (or most other MUA I suppose) the sent >> mail >> folder is on the local machine and I don't have my sent mails on other >> machines. >> >> I'd like to have a sent mail folder in IMAP and I thought that there would >> already exist a standard or best practice how to set this up so that the >> mail >> is only transfered once to the MTA and from the MTA to the IMAP server >> >> I even thought to remember an RFC related to this problem? >> It isn't that simple, is it? I'm using Exim > > these days any kown mail client in case of IMAP copies the message after > successful > sending via APPEND to the sent folder on the IMAP server - if kmail as > default stores > it only in a local folder file a bug against kmail > > hence you can even configure in which IMAP folder sent messages should be > stored which > is one of the biggest problem because every random client handles this > different instead > look if there is a "Sent" folder use it and display the locale name > unindependet of > the servers name > > mix different clients and in case of Apple mail.app and iPhones with > different patchlevels > and you will see a ton of different named sent-folder until you configure any > device to use > the same and remove the orphans yes i recent saw equal stuff at a migration from another namespace really bad behave by apple clients, but there should be no problems with brand new installs and mailboxes , which means no problem was reported to me yet > > the XLIST capability promises to solve this problem but it will take years > until any relevant > client is supporting this and only god knows how to act in the situtation > where you still have > 5 different sent-folders - so in the real world expect the problem exists the > next 5 years > > http://www.limilabs.com/blog/imap-list-xlist-and-lsub > _______________________________________________ > > transfer it only once to the MTA and from there to the sent-folder is more > or less impossible - most mail systems deliver messages via LMTP to dovecot > or whatever MDA and in that case have no predictable way to put it in the > sent folder serverside, at least not if you keep in mind that people > access their mail with different clients at the same time in days > of smartphones, tablets and whatever clients acess the same account > at the same time > > Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein