Op 9/21/2015 om 12:16 AM schreef T.B.: > Hi Stephan Bosch, > any update on this?
Unfortunately, no. It is not high up my list at the moment. :/ Regards, Stephan. > > > Regards, > > T.B. > > > Am 08.05.2014 um 14:37 schrieb Stephan Bosch: >> T.B. schreef op 7-5-2014 10:40: >>> I think it would not be a problem to develop a solution to remotely >>> trigger re-filtering for me, myself and I. But that is not the point >>> here. Clients like the Thunderbird Sieve Extension >>> (https://github.com/thsmi/sieve, >>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/sieve/) or the diverse >>> webmail MUA's will only start implementing such a feature if there is >>> a official draft or specification. >> >> Yes, I agree. >> >>> The whole point of my initiative here is that Managesieve finally >>> becomes the capability to replicate the features the users know from >>> their local client side filtering (Thunderbird, Outlook) which provide >>> the feature of re-filtering. Even big webmail providers like the >>> Global Mail Exchange / GMX here in Germany provide re-filtering in >>> their webgui. >> >> I don't think this should be a ManageSieve feature. ManageSieve >> currently does not need/have access to the user's mailbox. It therefore >> also doesn't have the syntax elements and mechanisms in place to select >> mailboxes and ranges of messages. I think the only sensible place for >> this feature is IMAP. >> >>> I use the sieve-filter tool very often for myself - everytime when I >>> create a new subfolder and create a new fileinto rule, I refilter my >>> Inbox to clean it up and have a consistent subfolder with all old and >>> new mails that are matching the rule. >>> >>> The man page of the sieve-filter tool is 2 and a half years old ;) >>> (http://pigeonhole.dovecot.org/doc/man1/sieve-filter.1.html) >>> Sadly even the Wiki page doesn't mention it directly: >>> http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/RefilterMail >> >> I haven't received much feedback about this command line tool. So either >> everyone is happy with it, or it is rarely used. :) >> >>> Since the new german Dovecot book (http://www.dovecot-buch.de/) >>> recommends the sieve-filter tool for refiltering, it will get much >>> more attention in the future. >> >> Only from Germans at first, although it will be translated soon I guess. >> >> Anyway, I will give this idea a closer look somewhat soon. The main >> problem with IMAPSieve is not the METADATA support or the other Sieve >> extensions needed for it, it is the atomic nature of the IMAP commands >> for which it is used: either the whole command succeeds or the whole >> command fails. This makes things difficult for the Sieve interpreter, as >> it needs to keep record of what it has done for when a rollback is >> needed. Especially for "redirect" this is a huge pain. >> >> However, as you rightly say, this new feature can be simpler than that. >> It can reduce the atomicity to include only the processing of individual >> messages and e.g. return a response indicating which messages were >> successfully processed. This way, the state at client and server can >> still remain consistent without too much trouble. I think I'll make a >> proof-of-concept first and then condense my experience into a proper >> specification. This can take a while though; there is much Dovecot stuff >> on my list at the moment. >> >> Regards, >> >> Stephan.